Casey Jordan
Criminologist, forensic psychologist and host of the podcast Criminal Appeal
Casey Jordan (Criminologist, forensic psychologist and host of the podcast Criminal Appeal) has appeared as a guest on 1 episode in TMT. Topics they speak about most include Stalking, Anti-stalking laws in the United States, Order of protection.
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Stalking
Jordan recounts wearing GoPro cameras on a backpack when she feared a former student was stalking her.
“when I was afraid of one of my former students stalking me, I would wear everywhere I went, shopping, to the grocery store, whatever, a backpack”
20/20: The After Show: Stalking Samantha – 13 Years of Terror (Jun 15, 2026) · Listen from 21:08
Jordan's primary advice to stalking victims is to involve law enforcement early and document all evidence.
“the number one piece of advice I will give to anybody who's being stalked is document, document, document, evidence, evidence, evidence”
20/20: The After Show: Stalking Samantha – 13 Years of Terror (Jun 15, 2026) · Listen from 20:37
Jordan advises victims to tell friends and rebuff stalkers in front of witnesses, saying public humiliation can burst the stalker's bubble.
“You're afraid to humiliate them, but that humiliation very often can burst the bubble”
20/20: The After Show: Stalking Samantha – 13 Years of Terror (Jun 15, 2026) · Listen from 20:12
Jordan argues that all stalking is violence and its psychological harm can exceed the fear of physical attack.
“The psychological and emotional violence of the stalking behavior can be even worse than the fear of physical attack”
20/20: The After Show: Stalking Samantha – 13 Years of Terror (Jun 15, 2026) · Listen from 15:25
Jordan says stalking is driven by fixation, obsession and the pursuit of unwanted contact.
“stalking is driven by three important things. You've got a fixation, an obsession, and the pursuit of unwanted contact”
20/20: The After Show: Stalking Samantha – 13 Years of Terror (Jun 15, 2026) · Listen from 4:10
Jordan argues that women's socialized kindness can empower certain stalkers.
“you're kind. And kindness for certain stalkers throws fuel on the fire. It gives them even more power”
20/20: The After Show: Stalking Samantha – 13 Years of Terror (Jun 15, 2026) · Listen from 2:14
Anti-stalking laws in the United States
Jordan contends that although things have improved, the criminal justice system remains too male-dominated to fully empathize with stalking victims.
“the biggest problem, I would argue, is that the criminal justice system is still extremely male dominated”
20/20: The After Show: Stalking Samantha – 13 Years of Terror (Jun 15, 2026) · Listen from 16:25
Jordan says state anti-stalking laws differ greatly, are often vague, and many are outdated regarding cyberstalking.
“all 50 states have some version of anti-stalking laws but they are dramatically different and sometimes they are very vague and open to interpretation”
20/20: The After Show: Stalking Samantha – 13 Years of Terror (Jun 15, 2026) · Listen from 8:41
Order of protection
Jordan warns that orders of protection offer limited protection because a violation can come too late.
“Orders of protection, we often say, aren't worth the paper they're written on, because by the time somebody violates the order of protection, you could be dead”
20/20: The After Show: Stalking Samantha – 13 Years of Terror (Jun 15, 2026) · Listen from 6:38
Jordan notes that the judge granted Stites an unusually long six-year order of protection because he believed her documentation.
“the judge was so convinced in this particular case that he gave her an order of protection for six years, which is an incredibly long time”
20/20: The After Show: Stalking Samantha – 13 Years of Terror (Jun 15, 2026) · Listen from 7:35
Domestic violence
Jordan argues that stalking qualifies as domestic violence even without physical attack because it is psychological violence.
“But it is domestic violence when somebody is stalking you because it's psychological violence”
20/20: The After Show: Stalking Samantha – 13 Years of Terror (Jun 15, 2026) · Listen from 23:10
Stalking Prevention, Awareness, and Resource Center
Jordan calls SPARC the best online resource for stalking victims, offering education, advocacy and referrals.
“The very best online resource is called SPARC, S-P-A-R-C, and it stands for the Stalking Prevention Awareness Resource Center”
20/20: The After Show: Stalking Samantha – 13 Years of Terror (Jun 15, 2026) · Listen from 22:21
Cyberstalking
Jordan recommends cyberstalking victims screenshot contacts and send them to a dedicated email account, CCing a trusted friend, for time-stamped records.
“every time this person makes contact with you, send yourself an email and CC a trusted friend who will also have access to that account”
20/20: The After Show: Stalking Samantha – 13 Years of Terror (Jun 15, 2026) · Listen from 21:48
Stalker typologies
Jordan describes the predatory stalker as the most dangerous type, capable of abduction and murder.
“Predatory stalkers are the ones that will escalate into a physical confrontation, including abduction, kidnapping, even murder”
20/20: The After Show: Stalking Samantha – 13 Years of Terror (Jun 15, 2026) · Listen from 15:00
Kidnapping of Samantha Stites
Jordan says Thomas began as an 'incompetent suitor' who did not see the age gap with Stites as significant.
“He started out as what we would call an incompetent suitor. Now, she was just 19, and he was about 27 when they met”
20/20: The After Show: Stalking Samantha – 13 Years of Terror (Jun 15, 2026) · Listen from 5:34
Appearances
The After Show: Stalking Samantha – 13 Years of Terror20/20 · Jun 15, 2026 · 24 min
Deborah Roberts and criminologist Casey Jordan discuss the Samantha Stites stalking and kidnapping case, stalker typologies, warning signs, and how victims can protect themselves.
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- Deborah Roberts · 1 shared episode