Chase Hughes
Behavioral profiling, influence and persuasion expert; creator of the Neuro-Cognitive Intelligence system and founder of the Station One YouTube channel
Chase Hughes (Behavioral profiling, influence and persuasion expert; creator of the Neuro-Cognitive Intelligence system and founder of the Station One YouTube channel) has appeared as a guest on 1 episode in TMT. Topics they speak about most include Psychological warfare, Elicitation technique, Hypnosis and memory reconsolidation.
In their words
Positions and remarks grouped by topic, each with the exact quote and where it was said.
Psychological warfare
Hughes contends that content eliciting easy emotion without scrutiny is a sign of manipulation.
“if the emotional thing is easy without having to dig into it you're being manipulated”
The Joe Rogan Experience: #2515 - Chase Hughes (Jun 17, 2026) · Listen from 2:01:41
Hughes argues framing a situation in a particular category changes what behavior people see as permissible.
“if I frame something using a category, I can change what the allowed behavior is”
The Joe Rogan Experience: #2515 - Chase Hughes (Jun 17, 2026) · Listen from 2:00:43
Hughes says the aim of his Station One news show is to make people harder to influence.
“And like my goal is to make people more expensive to influence”
The Joe Rogan Experience: #2515 - Chase Hughes (Jun 17, 2026) · Listen from 1:37:21
Hughes argues a binary left-right framing with a prepackaged villain is a hallmark of a psyop.
“if I have a left versus right issue and there's a prepackaged villain, that's a psyop”
The Joe Rogan Experience: #2515 - Chase Hughes (Jun 17, 2026) · Listen from 1:34:20
Hughes says his psyop index would score the lead-up to the Iraq invasion 98 out of 100.
“That would score a 98 out of 100 for PSYOP, just on this tool here”
The Joe Rogan Experience: #2515 - Chase Hughes (Jun 17, 2026) · Listen from 1:34:41
Other remarks
Hughes argues the measure of a good life is whether one lifted up the people one encountered.
“I think what gets you on the leaderboard is were you an upward force on most people's lives that you encountered?”
The Joe Rogan Experience: #2515 - Chase Hughes (Jun 17, 2026) · Listen from 2:29:42
Hughes says his NCI training defines confidence as beginning with willingness to accept social injury.
“the first ingredient of confidence is the willingness to receive social injury”
The Joe Rogan Experience: #2515 - Chase Hughes (Jun 17, 2026) · Listen from 2:11:39
Hughes reports that setting his toddler's iPad to a red color filter ended her compulsive viewing.
“the moment I turned it red, she didn't complain about the red. She got used to it within 15 minutes and never complained again”
The Joe Rogan Experience: #2515 - Chase Hughes (Jun 17, 2026) · Listen from 1:31:20
Hughes argues social media has scaled the threat of ridicule, driving performative behavior and loneliness.
“We had to worry about 20 people making fun of us. And now we've got to worry about 20 million”
The Joe Rogan Experience: #2515 - Chase Hughes (Jun 17, 2026) · Listen from 35:23
Elicitation technique
Hughes explains that elicitation extracts sensitive information more effectively through statements than questions.
“You can get sensitive information out of people better with statements than questions”
The Joe Rogan Experience: #2515 - Chase Hughes (Jun 17, 2026) · Listen from 2:21:10
Hypnosis and memory reconsolidation
Hughes explains his hypnosis method leaves the memory intact while changing the person's perspective on it.
“Yeah, and instead of modify the memory like, oh, that never happened, the memory stays. The perspective changes”
The Joe Rogan Experience: #2515 - Chase Hughes (Jun 17, 2026) · Listen from 1:17:44
Psychedelic therapy
Hughes says psychedelics are the fastest method of changing human behavior he has studied.
“And I've studied every possible way to change human behavior that – that probably has ever been researched. And this is, bar none, the fastest”
The Joe Rogan Experience: #2515 - Chase Hughes (Jun 17, 2026) · Listen from 50:43
Methylene blue
Hughes says that without methylene blue he quickly returns to having seizures.
“And if I don't take methylene blue for a couple of days, I'll go back into seizure territory pretty quickly”
The Joe Rogan Experience: #2515 - Chase Hughes (Jun 17, 2026) · Listen from 9:03
N,N-Dimethyltryptamine
Hughes describes his IV DMT session as sustaining the peak intensity of DMT for five and a half hours.
“but it's DMT, like the highest you can feel on DMT, like the most you can see on DMT, but it's five and a half hours of that”
The Joe Rogan Experience: #2515 - Chase Hughes (Jun 17, 2026) · Listen from 2:04
Appearances
#2515 - Chase HughesThe Joe Rogan Experience · Jun 17, 2026 · 2 h 38 min
Joe Rogan and behavioral profiler Chase Hughes discuss intravenous DMT, the UFC White House event, psychedelic therapy, memory editing, methylene blue, psyops, COVID-era media and elicitation tactics.
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Often appears with
- Joe Rogan · 1 shared episode