What Danny Goler has said about DMT laser experiment

Goler describes first seeing moving code on a wall after smoking DMT under a laser he soldered himself during COVID.

“I do the soldering. I turn it on. I smoke DMT. There's code on the wall”

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Goler cautions that cross-individual matching of the symbols has not yet been established scientifically.

“Because then you're proving that there's actual information in there. Now, this is not yet the case. I want to be very clear”

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Goler reports that ketamine does not produce the code while 5-MeO-DMT makes it clearer.

“we know the ketamine definitely doesn't work. We know that somehow on 5-MeO, we see it even clearer, which is super surprising”

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Goler recommends low-power lasers under 5 milliwatts, preferably red, and advises against the DeWalt laser.

“we always suggest that you don't do it with any laser above 5 milliwatts”

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