What Jonathan Swan has said about Regime Change: Inside the Imperial Presidency of Donald Trump

2 quotes · 1 episode · Jun 23, 2026

Jonathan Swan, New York Times reporter and co-author of Regime Change, has been quoted on Regime Change: Inside the Imperial Presidency of Donald Trump 2 times in 1 episode of Pod Save America, most recently on June 23, 2026. Each quote below is verbatim and links to the moment it was said.

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Swan argued Trump now cares less about polls and sees himself as a Napoleonic historic figure.
“He views himself and is trying to create this for himself as a capital G great man of history, as a sort of Napoleonic figure”
Pod Save America: Pool Me Twice, Shame On You (Jun 23, 2026) · Listen from 1:06:15
Swan reported that the 'historian' document comparing Trump to history's most powerful rulers was written by a golf caddy.
“It was Gary Player, the golfer's former caddy”
Pod Save America: Pool Me Twice, Shame On You (Jun 23, 2026) · Listen from 1:05:19

Pool Me Twice, Shame On You
Pod Save America · Jun 23, 2026 · 1 h 39 min
Jon Favreau, Jon Lovett, and Tommy Vietor discuss Iran talks, Trump's Reflecting Pool fiasco, the Qatari jet, and Bill Pulte; Tommy interviews Maggie Haberman and Jonathan Swan about Regime Change.