Martin Picard
Professor of behavioral medicine at Columbia University who leads the mitochondrial psychobiology lab
Martin Picard (Professor of behavioral medicine at Columbia University who leads the mitochondrial psychobiology lab) has appeared as a guest on 1 episode in TMT. Topics they speak about most include Mitochondria, Consciousness, Energy healing.
In their words
Positions and remarks grouped by topic, each with the exact quote and where it was said.
Mitochondria
Picard reports that his lab's three studies found positive psychological experiences associated with more mitochondria and better energy transformation, with animal work indicating a bidirectional relationship.
“People who report more positive experiences, like feeling more optimistic, right? Feeling like your life has purpose, feeling connections to other human beings. Those things seem to be associated with more mitochondria and mitochondria that are better at transforming energy”
Mayim Bialik's Breakdown: Re-Air: What is Energy? And Can Energy Therapy Heal?| Phenomena Podcast (Sep 12, 2026) · Listen from 30:39
Picard suggests mitochondria are the portal between immaterial mind and biochemistry, dematerializing food-stored sunlight into an electrochemical gradient.
“Mitochondria, I suspect, are the portal. between the immaterial existence of the mind, right? Like your experience and the way it manifests, the way it materializes or crystallizes into biochemistry”
Mayim Bialik's Breakdown: Re-Air: What is Energy? And Can Energy Therapy Heal?| Phenomena Podcast (Sep 12, 2026) · Listen from 26:55
Picard argues that a candle flame is a fair analogy for human life because both are organic, oxygen-consuming, dynamic and finite.
“A flame consumes oxygen and releases CO2, which is exactly what you do when you breathe. You breathe in oxygen, you breathe out CO2. And that happens in your mitochondria”
Mayim Bialik's Breakdown: Re-Air: What is Energy? And Can Energy Therapy Heal?| Phenomena Podcast (Sep 12, 2026) · Listen from 2:37
Consciousness
Picard argues that infusing energy into even a simple system produces spontaneous self-organization, and that in a complex system this may feel like consciousness.
“You just flow a bit of energy and then it feels like something. Consciousness”
Mayim Bialik's Breakdown: Re-Air: What is Energy? And Can Energy Therapy Heal?| Phenomena Podcast (Sep 12, 2026) · Listen from 47:44
Picard argues that biomedicine's materialist assumption that we are molecular machines is so pervasive that scientists are unaware of it.
“We've deluded ourselves over the last 100 years or so that we are molecular machines. And this is what biomedical science is based on. And this is so pervasive that it's like the water for fish”
Mayim Bialik's Breakdown: Re-Air: What is Energy? And Can Energy Therapy Heal?| Phenomena Podcast (Sep 12, 2026) · Listen from 4:36
Energy healing
Picard defines energy as the potential for change at biological, psychological and societal levels.
“Energy is the potential for change. And that's true at the biological level, the psychological level, at the societal level”
Mayim Bialik's Breakdown: Re-Air: What is Energy? And Can Energy Therapy Heal?| Phenomena Podcast (Sep 12, 2026) · Listen from 46:37
Picard argues that medicine treats identically labeled diseases the same way despite individual variation, with no real means of personalizing treatment.
“these are three different factors disease entities and they have the same label right and therefore in medicine we treat them the same way”
Mayim Bialik's Breakdown: Re-Air: What is Energy? And Can Energy Therapy Heal?| Phenomena Podcast (Sep 12, 2026) · Listen from 12:36
Endosymbiosis
Picard argues that the advent of mitochondria through endosymbiosis transformed selfish bacterial behavior into social, collective cellular behavior.
“that behavior was transformed into a more social a more kind of communal collective behavior And there's very good evidence. The advent of mitochondria is what made this possible”
Mayim Bialik's Breakdown: Re-Air: What is Energy? And Can Energy Therapy Heal?| Phenomena Podcast (Sep 12, 2026) · Listen from 25:01
Human Genome Project
Picard argues the Human Genome Project failed its central hypothesis because there are no single genes for common diseases.
“If the Human Genome Project had been a clinical trial, it would have failed its primary endpoint. There's no gene for cardiovascular disease. There's no gene for cancer”
Mayim Bialik's Breakdown: Re-Air: What is Energy? And Can Energy Therapy Heal?| Phenomena Podcast (Sep 12, 2026) · Listen from 7:51
Appearances
Re-Air: What is Energy? And Can Energy Therapy Heal?| Phenomena PodcastMayim Bialik's Breakdown · Sep 12, 2026 · 1 h 18 min
A re-aired Phenomena episode in which Ivy Ross, Martin Picard, Richard Hammerschlag, Neil Theise, Meredith Sprengel and Jonathan Cohen ask what energy is in healing.
Often appears with
- Mayim Bialik · 1 shared episode
- Jonathan Cohen · 1 shared episode
- Richard Hammerschlag · 1 shared episode
- Neil Theise · 1 shared episode
- Meredith Sprengel · 1 shared episode