What Michael Lewis has said about Department of Government Efficiency
2 quotes · 1 episode · Oct 4, 2026
Michael Lewis, American nonfiction author of Moneyball, The Big Short, The Fifth Risk and Blockers: Rebels in the Deep State, has been quoted on Department of Government Efficiency 2 times in 1 episode of Pod Save America, most recently on October 4, 2026. Each quote below is verbatim and links to the moment it was said.
In their words
Lewis argues Musk's $2 trillion target was impossible because interest, defense and entitlements make up about 75% of the budget.
“So it's mathematically impossible to cut $2 trillion out of this last little slice he's attacking”
Pod Save America: Deep State Rebels v. Trump (with Michael Lewis) (Oct 4, 2026) · Listen from 32:02
Lewis suggests DOGE's real effect was to set up conditions for a presidential power grab rather than cut waste.
“What it really is were the preconditions for a big power grab”
Pod Save America: Deep State Rebels v. Trump (with Michael Lewis) (Oct 4, 2026) · Listen from 31:32
Episodes
Deep State Rebels v. Trump (with Michael Lewis)Pod Save America · Oct 4, 2026 · 1 h 4 min
Jon Lovett interviews author Michael Lewis about his book Blockers, on federal employees who resisted DOGE and the Trump administration's reshaping of government.
Others on Department of Government Efficiency
- Jon Lovett · 2 quotes
- Tom Steyer · 1 quote
Michael Lewis on other topics
- United States federal civil service · 3 quotes
- National Institute of Standards and Technology · 2 quotes
- United States Institute of Peace · 2 quotes
- Blockers: Rebels in the Deep State · 1 quote
- Office of Personnel Management · 1 quote
- Internal Revenue Service · 1 quote
- Government fraud and waste · 1 quote
- Wildland–urban interface fires · 1 quote