Spain Prevails, World Cup Winners and Losers, and Damon Vs. Leo With Chris Ryan and Anthony Dabbundo
Episode of The Bill Simmons Podcast · July 20, 2026 · 1 h 50 min
Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan and Anthony Dabbundo react to Spain's 1-0 World Cup final win over Argentina, rank tournament winners and losers, and compare Matt Damon and Leonardo DiCaprio.
Summary
Streaming live on Netflix, Bill Simmons was joined by Chris Ryan and Anthony Dabbundo to react to Spain's 1-0 extra-time victory over Argentina in the 2026 FIFA World Cup final. Dabbundo called it one of the most dominant finals ever, citing Spain's record-low expected goals conceded and a team built around passing. Simmons described Argentina as the best live-bet team in World Cup history, while Ryan argued Argentina should have attacked more in what was likely Lionel Messi's last World Cup.
Simmons then went through his list of tournament winners and losers. Winners included Erling Haaland, Messi, Lamine Yamal, the United States as host, Kylian Mbappé, Jude Bellingham, bars and World Cup gambling. Losers included England, who Simmons said sat back after taking a 1-0 lead against Argentina, Christian Pulisic, FIFA, hydration breaks, which Simmons dismissed as commercials, and the Fox broadcast team. The group debated the video assistant referee. Dabbundo defended it as a fair application of the rules, and Ryan said it disrupted the game's cathartic moments. Simmons also asked for help choosing a European club to follow.
After Dabbundo left, Simmons and Ryan compared the careers of Matt Damon and Leonardo DiCaprio category by category, prompted by Damon's performance in Christopher Nolan's The Odyssey. They covered rewatchability, Oscar bait, fun movies, directors, awards, range and The Departed. Simmons revisited his 2016 claim that every DiCaprio movie would be better with Damon in it. The episode closed with a brief NBA catch-up on Jaylen Brown's new team and free-agency speculation.
Chapters
- 0:32
Intro
Simmons opens the live Netflix show with Chris Ryan and Anthony Dabbundo and plugs an upcoming Hitch rewatch.
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1:31World Cup final reactions
The group breaks down Spain's dominant 1-0 win over Argentina and Argentina's gamesmanship and limitations.
- 19:09
Biggest World Cup winners
Simmons runs through his winners list, including Haaland, Messi, Yamal, the U.S. as host, Bellingham, bars and gambling.
- 43:11
Biggest World Cup losers
England's decision to sit on a lead, Pulisic, FIFA, hydration breaks and the broadcast crew are named as losers.
- 56:33
The VAR debate
Dabbundo defends VAR while Ryan and Simmons criticize its effect on the game and float card-system reforms.
- 1:04:43
Simmons picks a European club
Simmons says his daughter's soccer career is ending and asks for help choosing a Premier League or La Liga team.
- 1:07:58
Matt Damon vs. Leonardo DiCaprio
Simmons and Ryan compare the two actors' careers across categories from rewatchables to Oscars to range.
- 1:27:14
The Departed and The Odyssey
They debate who won The Departed, who else could have played Odysseus, and The Odyssey's Best Picture chances.
- 1:40:16
NBA catch-up
Ryan and Simmons discuss Jaylen Brown's move and where a star free agent might end up.
People
In the conversation
- Bill SimmonsSportswriter and founder of The Ringer, host of The Bill Simmons Podcast
- Chris RyanThe Ringer podcaster and TV/film critic
- Anthony DabbundoRinger sports-betting and soccer analyst, co-host of The Ringer Gambling Show
Discussed
- Lionel MessiArgentine footballer and World Cup winner
- Matt DamonAmerican actor cast as Odysseus in Nolan's film
- Leonardo DiCaprioActor who played Hughes in The Aviator
- Lamine YamalSpanish soccer star who scored his first World Cup goal
- Erling HaalandNorwegian striker who showed off his LAN party setup
- Jude BellinghamEnglish midfielder for Real Madrid and England
- Christian PulisicU.S. men's national team forward
- Kylian MbappéFrench soccer star formerly of Paris Saint-Germain
- Harry KaneEngland striker who missed a chance in a 0-0 draw with Ghana
- Lionel ScaloniManager of the Argentina national team
- Christopher NolanBritish-American film director adapting the Odyssey for the screen
- Martin ScorseseAmerican director of The Wolf of Wall Street, cameoed in Hill's Outcome
- Steven SoderberghAmerican film director of Out of Sight
- Stu HoldenSoccer broadcaster who called the final
- Jaylen BrownBoston Celtics guard-forward at the center of the hosts' first-team All-NBA case
Topics
- 2026 FIFA World Cup
- 2026 FIFA World Cup final
- Matt Damon and Leonardo DiCaprio career comparison
- Spain national football team
- Argentina national football team
- England national football team
- Video assistant referee
- The Odyssey (2026 film)
- The Departed
- FIFA
- Sports betting
- United States men's national soccer team
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From the publisher
The Ringer’s Bill Simmons is joined by Chris Ryan and Anthony Dabbundo LIVE on Netflix to react to Spain defeating Argentina 1-0 to win the 2026 World Cup Final. Then, they discuss the winners and losers of the World Cup before comparing the careers of Matt Damon and Leonardo DiCaprio. (0:00) Intro (0:31) World Cup Final reactions (19:36) Biggest winners and losers of the World Cup (1:08:17) Matt Damon vs. Leonardo DiCaprio (01:40:18) NBA catch-up Host: Bill Simmons Guests: Chris Ryan and Anthony Dabbundo Producers: Chia Hao Tat, Eduardo Ocampo, and Chris Wohlers Brought to you by PayPal. Learn more at paypal.comThe Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit https://fanduel.com/playwithaplan to learn more about the resources and helplines Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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