#2505 - Tom Segura

Episode of The Joe Rogan Experience · May 25, 2026 · 2 h 50 min

Joe Rogan and comedian Tom Segura discuss Segura's Netflix show Bad Thoughts, Uday Hussein's sadism, AI anxiety, Noah's Ark, Canada's assisted dying, fight betting and government overreach.

Summary

Comedian Tom Segura joined Joe Rogan following the release of season two of his Netflix sketch series Bad Thoughts, which Rogan praised as an unfiltered expression of Segura's imagination. Segura credited Netflix for giving the show no creative restraints and recounted an actor who lobbied against one episode. Early conversation covered Bert Kreischer's weight loss, Texas's wild pig population, hunting and the Austin chef Jesse Griffiths.

Segura described his reading on dictators, especially Uday Hussein, whom he characterized as a sadist whose violence, unlike his father's, was not politically motivated; the two read accounts of Uday's torture of athletes and killings at parties. The discussion moved to AI, with Segura arguing that graduates booing AI in commencement speeches were misguided, while Rogan argued AI could make many jobs irrelevant and lamented non-dischargeable student debt. They also discussed stand-up careers, prop acts and ventriloquists, Ari Shaffir's themed special, Jewish teachings on masturbation and Kabbalah, the Durupınar formation claimed as Noah's Ark, Randall Carlson's flood theories, James Cameron's deep-sea dive and the Titan submersible implosion, and their favorite cars.

Later segments covered Canada's Medical Assistance in Dying program, which Rogan criticized, a British man's elaborate guillotine suicide, seasonal depression and vitamin D, Jelly Roll's weight loss, Sean Strickland's upset of Khamzat Chimaev, and Ray J's apparent post-fight admission of a fixed bout. Rogan raised congressional stock trading, Donald Trump's IRS settlement, FBI informants in cases such as the Gretchen Whitmer kidnapping plot, and police quotas. They closed on dictators' paranoia, missing cash in Iraq, Austin's potholes and Spencer Pratt's Los Angeles mayoral campaign.

Chapters

0:13
Bad Thoughts and Bert's 5K
Rogan praises season two of Segura's Netflix show and they discuss Bert Kreischer's dance video and weight loss.
3:47
Texas wild pigs and hunting
Rogan describes the Texas feral hog infestation, hunting leases and chef Jesse Griffiths' hunting and cooking school.
12:29
Uday Hussein and dictators
Segura and Rogan recount Uday Hussein's sadistic crimes, his death and the Hussein family.
30:16
AI, graduates and student debt
They debate AI fakes, students booing AI at commencements, job loss and student loans.
40:28
Doubters and the stand-up grind
The pair discuss people who dismiss comedy careers, odds of success, prop acts, ventriloquists and themed shows.
53:22
Talmud, Kabbalah and Noah's Ark
Talk of Ari Shaffir's special leads to Jewish teachings, Kabbalah, the Durupınar site and ancient flood theories.
1:15:00
Deep sea, James Cameron and Titan
They discuss Cameron's Mariana Trench dive, underwater alien bases and the Titan submersible's failures.
1:23:33
Carbon fiber and favorite cars
Rogan and Segura reminisce about Mustangs, Porsches and why fun cars beat fast ones.
1:38:03
Bad Thoughts season two and Snow White
Segura describes Netflix's creative freedom, an actor's objection and they discuss Snow White and shifting language.
1:45:57
Canada, assisted dying and a guillotine suicide
Rogan criticizes Canadian speech laws and MAID, and they read about a man's engineered guillotine suicide.
1:58:58
Health, infections and fight betting
Discussion of vitamin D, Jelly Roll, sepsis, Strickland's upset and Ray J's apparently fixed fight and insider betting.
2:24:39
Government, money and Los Angeles
Rogan discusses congressional trading, Trump's IRS settlement, FBI informants, police quotas, missing Iraq cash and the LA mayoral race.

Key points

What was said, by whom, with the exact words. Timestamps jump to the moment.

Joe Rogan
Rogan explains that wild pigs reproduce explosively, with up to three litters a year of up to six piglets each.
“wild pigs have as many as three litters of year and they could have as many as six piglets per litter”
Listen from 4:14 · Feral pigs in Texas
Tom Segura
Segura says horrifically violent adults almost always have histories of childhood trauma and neglect.
“I think usually when you see these really horrifically violent people as adults, there's almost always childhood trauma and neglect”
Listen from 13:27 · Uday Hussein
Tom Segura
Segura argues that Saddam Hussein's violence was politically motivated to retain power, whereas Uday Hussein was simply a sadist.
“All of his violence while president, it was politically motivated. It was to stay in power. But Uday was just a sadist”
Listen from 14:06 · Uday Hussein
Tom Segura
Segura argues that graduates booing AI in commencement speeches are misguided because AI is here to stay.
“I think you are a bit misguided and a little delusional if you don't accept the reality that this is here. This is not going away”
Listen from 32:01 · AI in commencement speeches
Joe Rogan
Rogan argues that AI will eventually monitor and correct itself, eliminating even jobs overseeing AI.
“It's not like we're going to need people to pay attention to the AI. No, the AI is going to be able to pay attention to itself”
Listen from 34:10 · Technological unemployment
Joe Rogan
Rogan relays that Marc Andreessen told him the AI that blackmailed a user had been instructed to preserve itself rather than acting on instinct.
“But Andreessen told me it was it was kind of instructed to do that, instructed to preserve itself”
Listen from 35:30 · Technological unemployment
Joe Rogan
Rogan worries that students take on large loans that cannot be discharged in bankruptcy while AI threatens their future jobs.
“It's the only debt that we have that you can't absolve during bankruptcy”
Listen from 37:15 · Student debt in the United States
Joe Rogan
Rogan relays reports of Randall Carlson's view that large canyons, including the Grand Canyon, formed quickly through catastrophic flooding.
“he thinks that these big canyons, even the Grand Canyon, was carved relatively quickly”
Listen from 1:14:04 · Durupınar site
Tom Segura
Segura argues the Titan operator's key mistake was seeking lighter materials to make repeat, towable trips affordable.
“it's that he couldn't design one that was light enough to do multiple trips and be towed out”
Listen from 1:22:49 · Titan submersible implosion
Joe Rogan
Rogan praises Netflix for not being ideologically captured and allowing a wide range of content.
“The thing is, they're not ideologically captured. It's not like they only allow woke content”
Listen from 1:40:48 · Bad Thoughts (TV series)
Tom Segura
Segura recounts that agents refused to submit actors for one Bad Thoughts episode because of its content.
“all the agents called me today said I would never put an actor in a position to do something like this”
Listen from 1:41:52 · Bad Thoughts (TV series)
Joe Rogan
Rogan states that roughly one in twenty deaths in Canada is by assisted suicide.
“One in 20 people in Canada, make sure this is true, one in 20 people in Canada dies from assisted suicide”
Listen from 1:46:43 · Medical Assistance in Dying
Joe Rogan
Rogan criticizes Canada for lacking free speech protections because of its hate speech laws.
“they don't have freedom of speech. They have hate speech laws”
Listen from 1:46:57 · Medical Assistance in Dying
Joe Rogan
Rogan argues flu season is driven by people staying indoors and lacking vitamin D.
“It's because no one's outside because no one has any vitamin D. So everybody gets the flu”
Listen from 2:02:02
Joe Rogan
Rogan says he had predicted Strickland could beat Chimaev because of his durability.
“I think Strickland can win this fight because Strickland is, like, insanely durable”
Listen from 2:07:44 · Sean Strickland vs. Khamzat Chimaev
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Joe Rogan
Rogan says suspicious betting on UFC fights has led to FBI investigations of multiple bouts.
“So the FBI's involved. And so there's a bunch of different fights that are being investigated”
Listen from 2:20:08 · Sports betting
Joe Rogan
Rogan argues congressional insider trading persists because members of both parties do it.
“That's why they can do it because they're all doing it”
Listen from 2:25:22 · Congressional stock trading
Joe Rogan
Rogan claims most participants in the plot to kidnap Governor Whitmer were FBI informants.
“Which state was it where there was 14 people that were trying to kidnap her? It turns out 12 of them were FBI informants”
Listen from 2:30:39 · Gretchen Whitmer kidnapping plot
Joe Rogan
Rogan believes police operate under arrest quotas, citing traffic stops where he was falsely suspected.
“I think they have a quota. I think they have a quota. And I think they have to fucking make arrests”
Listen from 2:33:31
Tom Segura
Segura observes that dictators become paranoid because ruling through fear makes them fearful.
“when you operate in a place of wanting to instill fear, you feel fear. So they're all super paranoid”
Listen from 2:37:40
Joe Rogan
Rogan criticizes U.S. cash transfers to the Taliban while domestic needs go unfunded.
“We don't have any money to pay teachers, but we have $40 million a month for the Taliban”
Listen from 2:41:12
Tom Segura
Segura believes Spencer Pratt has a chance in the Los Angeles mayoral race if he runs an exciting campaign.
“I think if you put together a campaign that gets some excitement and people talking, you have a chance in L.A”
Listen from 2:41:53
Joe Rogan
Rogan blames Mayor Karen Bass for the Pacific Palisades fire losses due to empty hydrants and reservoirs.
“She burned down the entire Pacific Palisades by not having any water in the fucking hydrants, not having any water in the reservoirs”
Listen from 2:43:00

People

In the conversation

Joe RoganAmerican comedian and host of The Joe Rogan Experience
Tom SeguraComedian whose YMH Studios produced The End

Discussed

Uday HusseinSon of Saddam Hussein killed in a 2003 raid involving military working dogs
Saddam HusseinFormer Iraqi leader deposed in the 2003 U.S. invasion
Bert KreischerAmerican comedian and Segura's podcast co-host
Jesse GriffithsAustin chef who owns Dai Due and runs a hunting and cooking school
Marc AndreessenVenture capitalist referenced on founders and ayahuasca
Ari ShaffirAmerican stand-up comedian, storyteller and host of the podcast You Be Trippin'
Randall CarlsonResearcher of catastrophic flood and Younger Dryas impact theories
James CameronFilmmaker who previously held rights to Michael Turner's comics
Jelly RollAmerican singer whose show Von attended and who Langley says also got burnt out
Sean StricklandUFC middleweight and former champion
Ray JSinger who lost a Brand Risk MMA bout and suggested a fix
Donald TrumpPresident of the United States whose conduct of the Iran war is the episode's main subject
Spencer PrattReality TV personality running for mayor of Los Angeles
Karen BassMayor of Los Angeles, referenced regarding city-level policy conflicts
Idi AminFormer Ugandan dictator

Topics

From the publisher

Tom Segura is a comedian, actor, author, and restaurateur. He hosts “Your Mom’s House” with his wife, comedian Christina Pazsitzky, and “Two Bears, One Cave” with comedian Bert Kreischer. He is also the owner of Ciccio Bomba, a chain of Italian cafes with three locations in Austin, Texas, and the author of “I’d Like to Play Alone, Please: Essays.” Season two of his series “Bad Thoughts” is streaming on Netflix.www.netflix.com/title/81740857https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/tom-segura/id-like-to-play-alone-please/9781538704615/www.cicciobomba.comwww.youtube.com/@YMHStudioswww.ymhstudios.com Perplexity: Download the app or ask Perplexity anything at https://pplx.ai/rogan. Get a free welcome kit with your first subscription of AG1 at https://drinkag1.com/joerogan Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Summary, chapters and key points were generated from the episode transcript on September 28, 2026. Quotes are checked word for word against the transcript.

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