#2519 - Scott Eastwood
Episode of The Joe Rogan Experience · June 26, 2026 · 2 h 34 min
Joe Rogan and actor Scott Eastwood discuss American food, political division, psychedelics and drug policy, acting and Hollywood, World War II film Lucky Strike, and doubts about recent assassinations.
Summary
Actor Scott Eastwood joined Joe Rogan ahead of the release of his World War II film Lucky Strike. The conversation opened with Eastwood's supplement company North Performance and moved into diet, with both men contrasting how they feel eating in Europe with American processed food; Rogan played a clip on bread additives and argued that food companies protect their business models through lobbying and regulatory capture, and that healthy-food advocacy has been wrongly coded as right-wing.
The pair discussed political division, which Eastwood suggested is used as a tool of control, and Rogan's criticism of gender-identity policies, mass migration in the UK and arrests for social media posts. They talked about purpose, craft and intention in skill-building (using Brazilian jiu-jitsu as an example), Eastwood's 5-MeO-DMT experience, the changing public perception of psychedelics, cannabis and broader drug legalization, moderation and loneliness, ADHD and Eastwood's dyslexia, and masculinity. A long tangent covered sharks, alligators, a whale-swallowing film and a bowhead whale found with a 19th-century harpoon.
Eastwood described playing villains for Guy Ritchie in Wrath of Man, Ritchie's practice of rewriting scenes on set, the dangers of child fame, his father's no-nonsense directing style, and the exodus of film production from California. Rogan recounted the story of UFC fighter Lee Murray and the 2006 Securitas robbery. Eastwood spoke about meeting 107-year-old veteran Herbert Stern while promoting Lucky Strike and the moral clarity of World War II.
In the final section Rogan voiced skepticism about official accounts of the Butler, Pennsylvania assassination attempt on Donald Trump and the assassination of Charlie Kirk, questioning the rifle disassembly narrative and wound, while fact-checking some claims live, such as the reported scrubbed apartment of Thomas Crooks, and rejecting the theory that the Butler shooting was staged.
Chapters
- 0:12
Supplements and wellness
Eastwood presents his supplement company North Performance and the two discuss vitamins, blood work and doctors' advice.
- 6:49
American food versus European food
They compare how they feel eating in Europe, play a clip on bread additives, and Rogan criticizes food industry lobbying and the politicization of healthy eating.
- 16:04
Division, culture wars and the UK
Eastwood argues division serves control, and Rogan discusses gender identity policy, Dearborn, migration and UK speech arrests.
- 27:43
Purpose, craft and intention
The pair discuss creating rather than taking, Eastwood's year off, the 10,000-hour idea and jiu-jitsu.
- 38:04
Actors as presidents and psychedelics
They joke about Clint Eastwood and The Rock running for office, and Eastwood describes a 5-MeO-DMT experience as Rogan traces changing views on psychedelics.
- 45:22
Cannabis and drug legalization
Rogan discusses lobbying against cannabis, polling, youth brain development and the case for legalizing all drugs, then MDMA therapy.
- 56:28
Moderation, ADHD and dyslexia
They discuss moderation, loneliness, Dave Chappelle's IVs, ADHD and Eastwood's dyslexia.
- 1:03:39
Pressure, masculinity and surfing
Eastwood discusses performing under pressure, the WWII generation and surfing, while Rogan defends masculinity and martial arts.
- 1:08:23
Sharks, alligators and whales
A tangent on shark encounters, a fatal Texas alligator attack, bull sharks, a whale-swallowing film and a bowhead whale with a 19th-century harpoon.
- 1:32:25
Playing villains and Hollywood life
Eastwood discusses Wrath of Man, method acting, child stardom, film production leaving California and bad behavior in the industry.
- 1:48:53
Directors and the Lee Murray heist
Eastwood describes Guy Ritchie's on-set rewriting and his desire to direct, and Rogan recounts Lee Murray's role in the Securitas robbery.
- 2:01:47
Lucky Strike and World War II veterans
Eastwood discusses researching war films, meeting veteran Herbert Stern, and why World War II remains morally clear.
- 2:11:57
Assassinations and official narratives
Rogan questions official accounts of the Trump assassination attempt and Charlie Kirk's killing, fact-checking some claims, before closing plugs.
Key points
What was said, by whom, with the exact words. Timestamps jump to the moment.
- Joe Rogan
Rogan argues food companies protect harmful additives in their business models through lobbying and placing allies in regulatory agencies.
“They hire lobbyists. They get their guys into the FDA”
- Joe Rogan
Rogan argues many people reject healthy-food advocacy because it has become associated with Trump and RFK Jr. and coded as right-wing.
“there's so many people that are rejecting something that's beneficial to everybody because somehow or another they have this connected to some right-wing anti-science position”
- Scott Eastwood
Eastwood suggests the red-versus-blue party division is maintained to control people and prevent unified revolt against moneyed interests.
“They divide in my opinion as to control. If you don't have division, that's when the pitchforks come out”
Listen from 16:05 · Political polarization in the United States
- Scott Eastwood
Eastwood recounts that taking a year off work before turning 40 left him more depressed rather than giving him perspective.
“And I actually got more depressed. I was like, wait, what the fuck is going on? I feel more depressed”
- Joe Rogan
Rogan argues that the intention and focus brought to practice matter as much as or more than total hours spent.
“But really it's the intention that you put into each and everything you do. That is as if not more important than the time”
- Scott Eastwood
Eastwood describes his 5-MeO-DMT experience as life-changing, saying that returning from it felt like seeing the world for the first time.
“And I think what was the most powerful thing was when you come back, it felt like seeing the world for the very first time again”
- Joe Rogan
Rogan says public perception of psychedelics has radically shifted during his lifetime, largely because of the internet.
“So the public's perception on this has really radically shifted in my lifetime. And I think it's because of the Internet”
- Joe Rogan
Rogan warns that regular cannabis use by young teenagers harms brain development.
“If you're getting high all the time when you're 14 years old, it's going to fuck your head up”
- Joe Rogan
Rogan argues that legalizing all drugs would be politically hard to sell but would likely be better for the country by undercutting cartels and funding treatment.
“It would be really hard to sell to them. But I think ultimately it would probably be better for us”
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Joe RoganRogan argues the term toxic masculinity conflates criminal behavior with masculinity, which he describes as protective.
“Toxic masculinity is a guy who beats people up and robs people and rapes. That's toxic. That's criminal behavior. Masculine behavior, it's protective”
- Scott Eastwood
Eastwood suggests apparent increases in shark sightings reflect more cameras and drones rather than more sharks.
“I actually don't think there's any more sharks. I think there's just more cameras”
- Scott Eastwood
Eastwood argues that becoming famous too young stunts personal growth, contrasting it with his own experience working menial jobs.
“You get famous too early, you get stunted in your growth”
- Scott Eastwood
Eastwood says he has barely ever worked on a film shot in Los Angeles, lamenting the industry's departure from California.
“I don't think I've ever worked on... Maybe I've worked on one film, but it was for a week”
Listen from 1:43:39 · Runaway film production from California
- Scott Eastwood
Eastwood describes Guy Ritchie as rewriting scenes in real time on set, discarding the prepared script.
“You learn the script, then you show up and he's just like, throws it out the window and goes, you say this, you do that, you do this”
- Scott Eastwood
Eastwood recounts meeting a 107-year-old World War II veteran while promoting Lucky Strike, an encounter that moved him to tears.
“I met one of the oldest living veterans the other night at the Washington Archives in DC, 107 years old”
- Scott Eastwood
Eastwood argues World War II remains fascinating because it lacked moral ambiguity, unlike wars such as Vietnam.
“What they were doing in Nazi Germany was terrifying. They were exterminating innocent people”
- Joe Rogan
Rogan, citing Norman Ohler's book Blitzed, says Nazi troops were heavily dosed with methamphetamine during the Blitzkrieg.
“it wasn't just evil people, it was evil people on meth”
- Joe Rogan
Rogan speculates that someone groomed and directed Thomas Crooks to attempt to shoot Trump, without asserting it was U.S. intelligence.
“someone talked that young kid into getting on that roof and trying to shoot Trump”
Listen from 2:12:58 · Butler, Pennsylvania assassination attempt
- Joe Rogan
Rogan doubts the official account that the shooter disassembled and reassembled his rifle, arguing it would have lost accuracy.
“anybody who knows anything about guns knows that you take a scope off a gun, you take the barrel off the gun”
- Joe Rogan
Rogan says Kirk's wound looks too small and lacks an exit wound for a .30-06 rifle round.
“30-06 is a big rifle round and to shoot a guy in the neck with a 30-06 you would expect”
- Joe Rogan
Rogan rejects claims that the Butler shooting was staged, arguing no shooter could deliberately nick an ear at that distance.
“there's not a fucking chance in hell that you can nick someone's ear with a bullet at that distance and be that accurate”
Listen from 2:25:16 · Butler, Pennsylvania assassination attempt
People
In the conversation
- Joe RoganAmerican comedian and host of The Joe Rogan Experience
- Scott EastwoodAmerican actor and producer, son of Clint Eastwood, star of the World War II film Lucky Strike
Discussed
- Clint EastwoodAmerican actor and director, Scott Eastwood's father
- Robert F. Kennedy Jr.Health secretary whose appointment Jesse Kelly cited as coalition-building
- Guy RitchieBritish film director who directed Eastwood in Wrath of Man
- Lee MurrayBritish former UFC fighter imprisoned for the 2006 Securitas depot robbery
- Charlie KirkAmerican conservative activist and podcast host assassinated in September 2025
- Tyler RobinsonSuspect in the Charlie Kirk assassination
- Thomas CrooksGunman in the Butler, Pennsylvania assassination attempt
- Tucker CarlsonConservative broadcaster cited as part of right-wing media
- Herbert Stern107-year-old World War II veteran Eastwood met in Washington
- Michael PollanJournalist and author of How to Change Your Mind
- Terence McKennaAmerican ethnobotanist and psychedelics advocate cited on higher dimensions
- Norman OhlerGerman author of Blitzed, about drug use in Nazi Germany
- Javier BardemSpanish actor who co-stars in Cape Fear
- Jim CarreyAmerican actor and comedian whose Dunkin' commercial fee was accidentally emailed to Druski's management
- Dave ChappelleAmerican comedian whose show Druski watched secretly as a child
- Matt DamonAmerican actor cast as Odysseus in Nolan's film
Topics
- Ultra-processed food and food additives
- Psychedelics
- Drug legalization
- Lucky Strike (2026 film)
- World War II
- Butler, Pennsylvania assassination attempt
- Assassination of Charlie Kirk
- Method acting
- Political polarization in the United States
- Masculinity
- Brazilian jiu-jitsu
- Sharks
- Securitas depot robbery
- Runaway film production from California
- Project MKUltra
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From the publisher
Scott Eastwood is an actor and producer known for his roles in films including “Fury,” “The Fate of the Furious,” and “Outpost.” His new film, “Lucky Strike,” will be released June 26.https://youtu.be/vtEnjikCXyAwww.fandango.com/lucky-strike-2026-246022/movie-overviewwww.roadsideattractions.com/filmography/luckystrike Perplexity: Download the app or ask Perplexity anything at https://pplx.ai/rogan. Use code ROGAN at https://BlueChew.com to get 10% OFF + Free Overnight Shipping on your first order. Try ZipRecruiter FOR FREE at https://ziprecruiter.com/rogan Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Summary, chapters and key points were generated from the episode transcript on September 29, 2026. Quotes are checked word for word against the transcript.