#2558 - Tyler Engle
Episode of The Joe Rogan Experience · September 24, 2026 · 2 h 30 min
Joe Rogan and researcher-musician Tyler Engle discuss Noah's Ark scans, megalithic stonework, Egyptian texts, and Engle's theory of ancient temples as resonant energy and consciousness technology.
Summary
Joe Rogan hosted Tyler Engle, creator of the BassForge channel, for a wide-ranging conversation about alternative ancient history. They opened with new scans at the Durupınar site near Mount Ararat claimed to show Noah's Ark, which Engle linked to the Sumerian flood hero Ziusudra and to nearby anchor stones. Both agreed the flood was likely a regional event rather than the Younger Dryas, and Rogan discussed giants, Denisovan body size, and the incompleteness of the fossil record.
Engle, who studied computer engineering and worked in construction and high-rise window cleaning, argued that megalithic works such as the Kailasa temple, the Ramesses II colossus, Baalbek and the Western Wall stone defy conventional explanations. He cited microspherules and exotic metals reportedly found in cut stones at Karnak, Dahshur and Baalbek, John Hutchison's experiments, and low-energy plasma physics as evidence of a lost technology. Rogan criticized mainstream archaeologists as ego-driven gatekeepers and praised Filippo Biondi's radar scans of Giza.
Engle laid out a theory that pyramids functioned as infrastructure focusing Schumann-cavity and radio frequencies into the ground to stabilize local ecology, while temples served as a 'software layer' that tuned human consciousness, and that mummification enabled a transfer of memory between pharaohs. He discussed the Book of Caverns imagery, spherical refraction, the Edfu building texts as an Atlantis account, doorways at Hegra as conscious 'transit stations,' and Jeffrey Drum's Land of Chem theory. Rogan related Icaros and DMT experiences and played a clip of an acoustically resonant Buddhist chaitya. Engle closed by proposing experiments combining DMT and tuned acoustics and promoting upcoming conference appearances.
Chapters
- 0:12
Noah's Ark scans and the Sumerian flood
Engle's video on Mount Ararat scans and anchor stones prompts discussion of whether the biblical flood was a regional event.
- 6:59
Giants, Denisovans and the fossil record
Rogan discusses Brian Shaw, Denisovan stature, historic small body sizes and why ancient legends may reflect real history.
- 16:14
Kailasa temple and impossible stonework
Engle describes excavation experiments at Kailasa, tool-mark depths, and the logistics of moving the Ramesses II statue.
- 26:19
Gatekeeping and Engle's path into the field
They criticize mainstream archaeology, discuss Filippo Biondi's scans, and Engle recounts discovering Graham Hancock while window cleaning.
- 31:12
Baalbek, Western Wall stone and plasma microspherules
Engle links Phoenician builders and Templars, then presents his video on exotic metals and microspherules in ancient stone cuts.
- 43:20
Votive cones, ringing rocks and temple networks
Engle theorizes about plasma-embedded stones, monopoles and temples as nodes connecting ground and ionosphere.
- 53:19
Mummification as consciousness transfer
Engle argues pharaohs inherited predecessors' memories through ritual, and Rogan brings up morphic resonance and inherited memory.
- 1:10:09
Afterlife texts, spells and the Book of Caverns
They examine tomb imagery, compare spells to AI prompts, and discuss spherical refraction depicted in the Book of Caverns.
- 1:28:00
Pyramids as ecological machines
Engle claims the Great Pyramid focuses radio frequencies into the ground and describes regional specializations of an ancient global system.
- 1:43:58
Off-world origins and ancient languages
Engle speculates on interstellar colonizers, building on older structures, and how hieroglyphs resist translation.
- 1:54:56
Telepathy Tapes, Edfu texts and Stargates
Discussion covers the 'hill' from the Telepathy Tapes, Matias De Stefano, Edfu's Atlantis account and Jeffrey Drum's chemical-plant theory.
- 2:08:14
Hegra doorways and conscious travel
Engle describes rock-cut doorways as gateways for consciousness travel and water-line erosion evidence.
- 2:13:02
Acoustic temples, music and psychedelics
Rogan describes Icaros and plays a chanting-hall clip, and Engle explains sound's role in altered states and proposes experiments before plugging upcoming events.
Key points
What was said, by whom, with the exact words. Timestamps jump to the moment.
- Tyler Engle
Engle argued that the Mount Ararat structure is associated with anchor stones sized for an enormous ship and that the site should simply be excavated.
“They'd need to be that big for a ship that large, and those dimensions are exceptionally close to what we see in the ground”
- Joe Rogan
Rogan said the literal story of all animals on the ark is implausible but likely simplifies a real, documented flood event.
“It seems like a ridiculous simplification of something that was probably at least somewhat true”
- Tyler Engle
Engle stated the Near Eastern flood was around 3000 BC, distinct from the Younger Dryas, and probably not global.
“Right. But it's not Younger Dryas flood evidence. But it's also probably not global”
- Tyler Engle
Engle claimed tool marks at Kailasa penetrate deeper than a modern hydraulic jackhammer can.
“the penetration depth of the scrape is greater than a jackhammer that we have”
- Joe Rogan
Rogan argued that stonework is the best evidence that modern civilization is not the most sophisticated to have existed.
“we are the most sophisticated culture that's ever existed on Earth. And I think there's a lot of evidence that that's not true. And the best evidence is the stone”
- Joe Rogan
Rogan attributed mainstream archaeology's resistance to ego and experts' desire to be gatekeepers of information.
“And one of the things that experts love to be is the gatekeeper of information”
- Tyler Engle
Engle said he believes the base of Baalbek was built by Phoenician Canaanites before the flood.
“I think Baalbek is pre-flood. I'm pretty convinced that it's pre-flood”
- Tyler Engle
Engle claimed microspherules found in megalithic stones indicate plasma interaction, at densities far above meteoritic background.
“A typical meteorite, meteorites have about one per square meter. Baalbek had three per centimeter”
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Tyler EngleEngle classified the Osirion, Osiris shaft and Great Pyramid as infrastructure and classic Egyptian temples as the software layer, predating dynastic Egyptians.
“Those are classified in my opinion as hardware and infrastructure. Whereas the temples like Luxor Karnak”
- Tyler Engle
Engle proposed that pharaonic coronation involved downloading the prior pharaoh's memories, effectively a transfer of consciousness.
“Their crowning of the champion would be downloading the previous memories of the prior pharaoh. It was a transfer of consciousness essentially”
- Tyler Engle
Engle stressed that scholars understand hieroglyphic phonetics via the Rosetta Stone but not their full meanings.
“Like we have a really poor understanding of hieroglyphs. I want to like make that very clear”
- Tyler Engle
Engle argued an image in the Book of Caverns matches the optical refraction of light through a sphere.
“And when you look at it, it is the exact optical refraction of a sphere”
- Tyler Engle
Engle contended the Great Pyramid acts as a sink channeling energy into the ground rather than a transmitter.
“So to me, they're like more of a sink than they were like a transmitter. I think a lot of people think they were a transmitter”
- Tyler Engle
Engle said he believes the pyramids' main purpose was stabilizing local ecology and environment.
“I think their main purpose was stabilizing the local ecology and the environment of these places”
- Tyler Engle
Engle claimed the Edfu building texts are the earliest record of the Atlantis story, predating Plato.
“The building texts of Edfu are actually the first records of Atlantis that we have. That's not Plato”
- Tyler Engle
Engle interpreted rock-cut doorways at Hegra and in Peru as exits for consciousness traveling through rock.
“that's why you see these doorways carved in the middle of nowhere in Peru and the same thing in Saudi Arabia”
- Joe Rogan
Rogan recounted that Icaros sung during DMT experiences made his visuals synchronize with the music.
“I've experienced it where you play the songs on DMT. And it makes the DMT dance like in this very strange sync”
Listen from 2:13:46 · Psychedelics and altered states of consciousness
- Tyler Engle
Engle proposed testing his theory by exposing people on sustained intravenous DMT to tuned frequencies in a cathedral.
“Go to a cathedral, rent it out for a day, and play with some frequencies in there while a bunch of people are on this sustained DMT intravenous trip”
People
In the conversation
- Joe RoganAmerican comedian and host of The Joe Rogan Experience
- Tyler EngleMusician, researcher, author and host of the BassForge YouTube channel
Discussed
- Graham HancockBritish writer on alternative history and lost civilizations
- Filippo BiondiItalian researcher using synthetic aperture radar to scan beneath Egyptian sites
- John HutchisonCanadian experimenter known for the claimed 'Hutchison effect' levitation experiments
- John Anthony WestAmerican author on alternative Egyptology
- Rupert SheldrakeBritish biologist known for the theory of morphic resonance
- Jeffrey DrumIndependent researcher behind the 'Land of Chem' theory of pyramids as chemical plants
- Matias De StefanoArgentine speaker who claims to remember past lives
- Brian ShawAmerican strongman
- Dennis McKennaAmerican ethnopharmacologist
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From the publisher
Tyler Engle is a musician, researcher, author, and host of the "BassForge" YouTube channel.www.youtube.com/@BassForge_ushttps://bassforge.us Perplexity: Download the app or ask Perplexity anything at https://pplx.ai/rogan. Visit https://ketone.com/Rogan for 30% OFF, or find Ketone-IQ at Target nationwide. Use code DRENCHED at https://BlueChew.com to get 10% OFF + Free Overnight Shipping on your first order Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Summary, chapters and key points were generated from the episode transcript on September 28, 2026. Quotes are checked word for word against the transcript.