Jill Biden's OBVIOUS Lies, and the Spencer Pratt Momentum, with Jesse Kelly, Damilare Sonoiki and Stepfanie Tyler | Ep. 1328
Episode of The Megyn Kelly Show · May 29, 2026 · 1 h 43 min
Megyn Kelly and Jesse Kelly assail Jill Biden's debate revisionism and Texas politics, then discuss Spencer Pratt's LA mayoral surge and celebrity news with Damilare Sonoiki and Stepfanie Tyler.
Summary
Megyn Kelly opened with Jill Biden's new book and CBS interview, in which the former first lady said she feared Joe Biden was having a stroke during the 2024 debate. Kelly and guest Jesse Kelly called the account an obvious lie, citing her post-debate praise of her husband. Jesse Kelly argued the Bidens told unusually large lies, questioned whether Jill Biden was power-hungry or 'evil' for pushing a declining husband to run, blamed the media and Jake Tapper for covering up Biden's condition, and speculated she wrote the book out of bitterness toward Democrats who pushed him out. The hosts also discussed Democratic backlash from Pod Save America and doubts about Biden's cancer diagnosis.
The pair then turned to a possible Iran deal, with Jesse Kelly saying Trump reads his poll numbers, that no easy options remained, and predicting Trump would soon clash with hawkish allies. On Texas, Jesse Kelly celebrated Ken Paxton's primary win over John Cornyn as a warning to disloyal Republican senators and predicted James Talarico, who was shown walking back comments that God is non-binary, would lose in November.
In the second hour, TV writer Damilare Sonoiki and entrepreneur Stepfanie Tyler joined. Sonoiki described making viral AI-generated comedy ads for Spencer Pratt in the Los Angeles mayoral race, where polls showed a near three-way tie with Karen Bass and Nithya Raman, and suggested such ads may be the future of political advertising. The panel criticized Chelsea Handler's attacks on Pratt, reviewed the California governor's race, and discussed performers withdrawing from the Trump-aligned Freedom 250 concert, including Freedom Williams's profane refusal to be pressured. They also covered a roller coaster malfunction in Galveston, Jenna Bush Hager's comments on book bans, Rosie O'Donnell's cold sore video, and Gayle King's account of catching her ex-husband cheating and her denial of a romantic relationship with Oprah Winfrey.
Chapters
- 0:00
Jill Biden's debate claims
Megyn Kelly introduces the episode and plays Jill Biden saying she feared Joe Biden was having a stroke during the 2024 debate, which the hosts call a lie.
- 10:49
Jill Biden's motives and legacy
Jesse Kelly argues Jill Biden was driven by power and legacy and questions whether pushing her husband to run was evil.
- 17:20
Media gaslighting and Democratic backlash
The hosts revisit the 'stutter' narrative, Jake Tapper's coverage, and anger from Pod Save America and a former Jill Biden spokesman.
- 27:46
Cancer diagnosis and the book's purpose
Jill Biden's comments on the missed prostate cancer diagnosis prompt skepticism, and Jesse Kelly theorizes the book is revenge on Democrats.
- 35:09
Possible Iran deal
Megyn Kelly welcomes a possible deal to end the Iran war while Jesse Kelly says easy options vanished and predicts Trump will clash with hawks.
- 40:32
Paxton's win and Talarico's reversals
Jesse Kelly hails Ken Paxton's defeat of John Cornyn and predicts James Talarico will lose despite walking back past statements.
- 51:57
Spencer Pratt and the LA mayoral race
Damilare Sonoiki discusses his viral AI ads for Pratt, new polls, and Chelsea Handler's attacks.
- 1:06:03
California governor's race
Megyn Kelly reviews polling showing Xavier Becerra, Steve Hilton and Tom Steyer leading and urges Republicans to consolidate behind Hilton.
- 1:09:04
Freedom 250 concert withdrawals
The panel mocks the Freedom 250 lineup and debates why musicians are backing out, featuring Freedom Williams's defiant video.
- 1:18:09
Galveston roller coaster malfunction
Megyn Kelly describes students stranded on the Iron Shark coaster and the guests say they avoid such rides.
- 1:25:20
Jenna Bush Hager and Rosie O'Donnell
The panel criticizes Jenna Bush Hager's book-ban comments and Rosie O'Donnell's cold sore video.
- 1:33:11
Gayle King on cheating and Oprah
Gayle King's podcast stories about catching her ex-husband cheating and rumors about Oprah Winfrey are discussed.
Key points
What was said, by whom, with the exact words. Timestamps jump to the moment.
- Megyn Kelly
Megyn Kelly argues Jill Biden's claim of shock at the debate is revisionist history meant to reduce her culpability in the cover-up.
“She knew this was par for the course. This is revisionist history to make her look less culpable on the cover up”
- Jesse Kelly
Jesse Kelly argues that Jill Biden saw her husband when the cameras were off and must have known his true condition.
“saw him in the morning she saw him at night after the cameras were off and the drugs had worn off”
- Jesse Kelly
Jesse Kelly contends that pushing a husband with apparent dementia into the presidency and a second run would have killed him and that Jill Biden had to know it.
“to take your own husband and throw him into the most stressful job on the planet and then demand that he run and do it again for four years”
- Jesse Kelly
Jesse Kelly argues the media should have exposed Biden's condition during the Democratic primary rather than promoting stories about his stutter.
“That is something the American media should have exposed during the Democrat primary before he ever won the Democrat nomination”
Listen from 19:09 · Media credibility and independent journalism
- Jesse Kelly
Jesse Kelly says he is not willing to accept at face value that Joe Biden has stage four bone cancer, given the family's history of lies.
“I don't know that I'm willing to accept at face value that Joe Biden has stage four cancer, that he has bone cancer”
- Megyn Kelly
Megyn Kelly argues Jill Biden's book hurts Democrats by reviving a debate they cannot win while Republicans are struggling.
“Enter Jill Biden to bring the conversation back to their lowest moment in recent history and revive a debate that is unwinnable for Democrats”
- Jesse Kelly
Jesse Kelly says Democrats erred by not offering the Bidens lucrative incentives when pushing Joe Biden out, leaving a bitter Jill Biden to write a damaging book.
“They should have paid him off in some way. It would have had to be significant because you're asking the man to give up the presidency”
- Megyn Kelly
Megyn Kelly opposes escalating the Iran bombing campaign or deploying ground troops, calling it a potential political and humanitarian disaster.
“it would just get America even further entrenched in this thing, which I believe would be a political and humanitarian disaster”
- Jesse Kelly
Jesse Kelly argues that all easy options vanished once Trump decided to attack Iran, and any deal will include concessions that make supporters wince.
“If you do a deal with Iran, there are going to be things in that deal that make you wince and cringe”
- Jesse Kelly
Jesse Kelly predicts Trump will soon attack his hawkish new allies on Truth Social if they oppose an Iran deal.
“We are days, if not weeks away from Trump. blasting people on true social who have been his newfound friends”
- Jesse KellyPrediction · due Nov 2026
Jesse Kelly predicts James Talarico will lose and Ken Paxton will win the Texas U.S. Senate seat.
“James Tallarico is not going to win in the state of Texas. Ken Paxton is going to be the next Republican senator from the state of Texas”
Listen from 41:30 · 2026 United States Senate election in Texas
- Jesse Kelly
Jesse Kelly argues Paxton's primary win shows Republican senators can no longer betray primary voters without consequences.
“Sending a message to the low TGOP that we will take scalps when we are betrayed is a very important development”
Listen from 43:44 · 2026 United States Senate election in Texas
- James Talarico
James Talarico says his statement that God is non-binary was intentionally provocative and meant God cannot be defined by human categories.
“i was being intentionally provocative with that statement but what it means is that god can't be defined by human categories”
Listen from 46:01 · 2026 United States Senate election in Texas
- Jesse Kelly
Jesse Kelly argues only a conservative Blue Dog-style Democrat could win statewide in Texas, which today's Democratic Party would not allow.
“It's going to have to be the kind of Democrat who would never be allowed in the Democrat Party today”
Listen from 47:34 · 2026 United States Senate election in Texas
- Damilare Sonoiki
Damilare Sonoiki suggests AI-generated ads may be the future of political advertising because of their speed, turnaround and low cost.
“the speed and the turnaround and the cost, and for political stuff, you need to be quick, right?”
Listen from 56:10 · Artificial intelligence in political advertising
- Damilare Sonoiki
Damilare Sonoiki says he was skeptical of media depictions of drug-ridden cities until he saw San Francisco and Skid Row for himself.
“when fox news would say that san francisco is full of these zombie drug addicts i went to san francisco for the first time in maybe 10 years”
- Stepfanie Tyler
Stepfanie Tyler argues voters are reluctant to admit supporting Pratt but frustration with homelessness makes them willing to try him.
“Nobody wants to admit that they want to vote for this evil, straight, white man who is a Nazi, as Chelsea Handler calls it”
- Damilare Sonoiki
Damilare Sonoiki says even a Bass-aligned friend offered only anti-Pratt arguments, suggesting the status quo is hard to defend.
“It's very hard to make a case for the status quo”
- Stepfanie Tyler
Stepfanie Tyler calls performers who drop out of the Freedom 250 event under pressure cowardly, arguing one can love America and hate Trump.
“I feel like these people don't know you can love America and hate Trump”
- Megyn Kelly
Megyn Kelly theorizes musicians withdrew from Freedom 250 not from fear of political backlash but because of the universally negative reaction to the lineup.
“I actually don't think this is fear of a backlash for getting too political or being in favor of Trump”
- Megyn Kelly
Megyn Kelly says To Kill a Mockingbird was removed only from a couple of schools' mandatory curricula, not from libraries, and accuses the left of lying about censorship.
“A couple of schools, we looked into it, have removed it from the mandatory ninth grade curriculum. That's it”
Linked moment · 1:33:11Skip to 1:33:11 using a listen link in the info box.
Gayle KingGayle King says she and Oprah Winfrey are not gay and would say so if they were, adding that she prefers men.
“Number one, if we were gay, we would tell you because... Believe me, there's nothing wrong with it. It's just I prefer a man”
Listen from 1:34:20 · Gayle King and Oprah Winfrey relationship rumors
- Damilare Sonoiki
Damilare Sonoiki praises Oprah Winfrey's decision not to publicly combat the rumors, arguing that fighting them only amplifies them.
“I think anytime you try to combat something, it just makes it bigger. So kudos to Oprah”
Listen from 1:41:21 · Gayle King and Oprah Winfrey relationship rumors
People
In the conversation
- Megyn KellyConservative broadcaster and podcaster
- Jesse KellyAmerican conservative talk radio host of 'The Jesse Kelly Show' and 'I'm Right', and Marine Corps veteran
- Damilare SonoikiAmerican television writer whose credits include Black-ish and The Simpsons
- Stepfanie TylerFounder of Bad Girl Media and the fashion brand Westly
- James TalaricoDemocratic Senate nominee in Texas
- Gayle KingCBS News host who interviewed Lizzo
Discussed
- Nancy PelosiUS congresswoman whose husband was attacked with a hammer in their San Francisco home
- Ken PaxtonTexas Attorney General and Republican Senate nominee
- John CornynIncumbent Republican U.S. senator from Texas
- Karen BassMayor of Los Angeles, referenced regarding city-level policy conflicts
- Nithya RamanLos Angeles city councilmember and democratic socialist mayoral candidate
- Steve HiltonRepublican candidate for governor of California and former Fox News host
- Xavier BecerraFormer U.S. Health and Human Services Secretary and California attorney general running for governor
- Tom SteyerDemocratic candidate for governor of California and billionaire investor
- Chad BiancoRiverside County sheriff and Republican candidate for governor of California
- Jane FondaActress, Turner's former wife
- Oprah WinfreyAmerican broadcaster whom Nguyen said he met while traveling with his Zen teacher
- Barack ObamaFormer president referenced in comparing 2010 midterm conditions
- Adam CarollaAmerican comedian, radio personality, and host of The Adam Carolla Show
Topics
- 2024 Biden–Trump presidential debate
- Jill Biden's memoir and book tour
- Health of Joe Biden
- 2026 Los Angeles mayoral election
- 2026 United States Senate election in Texas
- United States war with Iran
- Media credibility and independent journalism
- 2026 California gubernatorial election
- United States Semiquincentennial
- Artificial intelligence in political advertising
- Gayle King and Oprah Winfrey relationship rumors
- Homelessness in Los Angeles
- Iron Shark roller coaster malfunction
- Book banning in the United States
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From the publisher
Megyn Kelly is joined by Jesse Kelly, host of "The Jesse Kelly Show," to discuss Jill Biden’s attempt to spin Joe Biden’s disastrous debate performance, her lies now trying to make herself look better, why Jesse sees her treatment of her affirmed husband is possibly "evil," and more. Growing backlash from the Democratic establishment about Jill Biden's book tour, Jill's attempt to spin Joe's cancer diagnosis, James Talarico now attempting to walk back his past comments about six genders and God being "non-binary," why Texas voters won't buy his new persona, and more. Then Damilare Sonoiki, TV writer, and Stepfanie Tyler, founder, "Bad Girl Media" and "Westly," join to discuss why Sonoiki's viral Spencer Pratt videos are blowing up online, the rise of Pratt in the LA mayor race, Chelsea Handler's attempt to smear Pratt, why the attacks aren't working, the "Freedom 250" concert's lineup full of previously-famous musicians, the real reason the musicians are canceling their appearances, Gayle King sharing the shocking story of catching her ex-husband cheating, Gayle addressing long-running rumors about her relationship with Oprah Winfrey, and more. Kelly- https://www.youtube.com/@JesseKellyDC Sonoiki- https://x.com/dsonoiki Tyler- https://shopwestly.com/ Cozy Earth: This Memorial Day, visit https://www.CozyEarth.com & Use code MEGYN for up to 30% off Birch Gold: Text MK to 989898 for a free info kit and to see if you qualify for up to $10,000 back through May 29. Relief Factor: Break up with pain—Relief Factor targets inflammation so you can move better and feel better; try the 3-Week QuickStart for just $19.95 at https://ReliefFactor.com or call 800-4-RELIEF. The Wellness Company: Don’t let a sudden illness derail your summer—secure your peace of mind and save $45 on a Medical Emergency Kit today by visiting https://UrgentCareKit.com/MK and using promo code MK.
Summary, chapters and key points were generated from the episode transcript on September 28, 2026. Quotes are checked word for word against the transcript.