Latest Arrest Connected to Karmelo Anthony Case, Nowak Prosecutors Appeal Digwa’s Lenient Sentence, New Developments in Nancy Guthrie Case | Ep. 1348

Episode of The Megyn Kelly Show · June 26, 2026 · 2 h 9 min

Megyn Kelly discusses the Karmelo Anthony retaliation arrests and Caitlin Clark with Jason Whitlock, the Henry Nowak sentence appeal, and the Nancy Guthrie case with profilers James Fitzgerald and John Kelly.

Summary

Megyn Kelly opened with reports that three women were arrested in Longview, Texas, over an alleged assault on a white woman, Sammy Lee, reportedly carried out in retaliation for the conviction of Karmelo Anthony for killing Austin Metcalf. Jason Whitlock argued that hip hop culture, fatherlessness and racial victimhood narratives were driving violence and indifference to Metcalf's death, drawing a comparison to the West Memphis Three case. He also discussed the murder of his former co-host 'Uncle Jimmy' and argued for the importance of two-parent families.

Whitlock then analyzed the latest WNBA controversy around Caitlin Clark, including her omission from the league's 30th-anniversary poster and a flagrant foul by Alyssa Thomas. He contended the foul was exaggerated, that league treatment of Clark had improved this season, and that Clark left the game over a conflict with coach Stephanie White rather than a back injury, a theory Kelly noted was unproven.

Kelly then covered UK prosecutors appealing Vikram Digwa's life sentence with a 21-year minimum for murdering Henry Nowak, playing newly released body camera footage of Digwa falsely telling police he had been racially attacked. She argued police bias toward minorities led them to disbelieve Nowak.

In the final segment, James Fitzgerald and John Kelly discussed new reporting that the first ransom note in the Nancy Guthrie case was addressed to Savannah Guthrie and described an Apple Watch with a white band. Fitzgerald remained skeptical of the notes and floated an erotomania motive tied to Savannah, while John Kelly called the notes' author an unsophisticated rookie. Both dismissed the self-described 'friend of the kidnapper' contacting TMZ, debated reports that police regretted not paying the ransom, and responded to Maureen O'Connell's claim that investigators were closing in on the suspect.

Chapters

  1. 0:00

    Longview assault arrests

    Kelly reports arrests in an alleged retaliatory attack on a white woman linked to the Karmelo Anthony conviction.

  2. 5:48

    Whitlock on hip hop and culture

    Whitlock argues hip hop culture and victimhood narratives underlie defenses of Anthony and retaliatory violence.

  3. 24:06

    Murder of Uncle Jimmy and fatherhood

    Whitlock recounts the killing of his former co-host and argues for the nuclear family.

  4. 28:48

    Caitlin Clark and the WNBA

    Whitlock breaks down the anniversary poster, the Alyssa Thomas foul and Clark's feud with coach Stephanie White.

  5. 51:49

    Henry Nowak sentence appeal

    Kelly covers prosecutors' appeal of Digwa's sentence and newly released body camera footage.

  6. 1:05:17

    New Guthrie developments

    Kelly outlines the friend-of-the-kidnapper emails and CBS's report that the first note was addressed to Savannah.

  7. 1:10:11

    Profilers assess the ransom notes

    Fitzgerald and John Kelly question the notes' authenticity and the abductor's sophistication.

  8. 1:30:52

    Erotomania theory

    Kelly and Fitzgerald discuss whether a stalker obsessed with Savannah could be behind the abduction.

  9. 1:42:14

    The Apple Watch photo

    Kelly shows public photos of Nancy wearing an Apple Watch with a white band and weighs what the note's detail proves.

  10. 1:48:10

    Friend of the kidnapper

    The panel dismisses the TMZ correspondent claiming to have video of Nancy.

  11. 1:56:48

    Regret over unpaid ransom

    The guests react to Howard Bloom's report that police regret not paying the ransom and tracking it.

  12. 2:00:34

    Is an arrest close?

    The panel discusses Maureen O'Connell's 75 percent estimate, the suspect's likely behavior and two other missing Arizona women.

Key points

What was said, by whom, with the exact words. Timestamps jump to the moment.

  • Jason Whitlock

    Whitlock argues that hip hop culture exerts a harmful influence on young black people comparable to what was alleged about heavy metal in the West Memphis Three case.

    “I believe that the same thing is going on with hip hop music and hip hop culture. It has the same influence over young black kids”

    Listen from 6:10 · Hip hop culture

  • Jason Whitlock

    Whitlock says data shows two-parent households outperform single-parent ones.

    “No, man, I believe the data. I believe the Bible, but I believe the data even more, that two parents do a better job than one parent”

    Listen from 25:42 · Fatherhood

  • Jason Whitlock

    Whitlock argues that fathers must return to homes to provide authority and protection.

    “Fathers have to come back into the homes so that there's peace, there's an authority figure”

    Listen from 26:37 · Fatherhood

  • Jason Whitlock

    Whitlock notes that Diana Taurasi, whom he calls the greatest WNBA player, was also left off the anniversary poster, suggesting an equity mindset rather than bias against Clark.

    “Diana Taurasi is widely considered the greatest WNBA player of all time. She's white. She's not on the poster either”

    Listen from 34:02 · Women's National Basketball Association

  • Jason Whitlock

    Whitlock argues the Alyssa Thomas foul on Clark was exaggerated when viewed in slow motion.

    “This thing's being exaggerated, and I'll make a very provocative analogy”

    Listen from 34:13 · Caitlin Clark

  • Jason Whitlock

    Whitlock says the WNBA addressed physical treatment of Clark with new freedom-of-movement rules, and animus toward her has dissipated.

    “And the league addressed it this offseason, implementing new rules about freedom of movement”

    Listen from 36:29 · Caitlin Clark

  • Jason Whitlock

    Whitlock contends Clark left the game because of her conflict with coach Stephanie White rather than a back injury.

    “They're at each other's throats. And Caitlin Clark walked out. She'd had enough, walked off”

    Listen from 45:39 · Caitlin Clark

  • Megyn Kelly

    Kelly reports that police took eight minutes to find Nowak's stab wounds because they believed Digwa's account.

    “we now know it took police eight minutes to find Henry's stab wounds”

    Listen from 59:26 · Killing of Henry Nowak

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    Megyn Kelly

    Kelly supports the prosecutors' appeal, arguing Digwa's 21-year minimum should be much higher.

    “The prosecutors, they should pursue that 21 year minimum because it should be much, much higher”

    Listen from 1:00:28 · Killing of Henry Nowak

  • Megyn Kelly

    Kelly argues UK policing is so ideologically compromised that a new generation of officers is needed.

    “that like we need a whole new generation to come into policing in the UK and replace these people”

    Listen from 1:00:28 · Killing of Henry Nowak

  • James Fitzgerald

    Fitzgerald says he remains highly skeptical that the Guthrie ransom notes are authentic.

    “i am still highly skeptical of their provenance of their of their validity of their legitimacy”

    Listen from 1:15:09 · Forensic linguistics

  • John Kelly

    John Kelly argues the ransom note author shows no sophistication and is not a professional kidnapper.

    “No, I mean, this guy's dripping of rookie, dripping of stupid rookie as far as I'm concerned”

    Listen from 1:18:35 · Disappearance of Nancy Guthrie

  • John Kelly

    John Kelly argues the soft language of the second note, such as 'perished,' is inconsistent with the psychopathic personality he believes abducted Nancy.

    “I have never heard one of these guys. These are hard guys. They use words like perished”

    Listen from 1:24:46 · Forensic linguistics

  • James Fitzgerald

    Fitzgerald suggests the abductor may have been a stalker obsessed with Savannah Guthrie who targeted her mother instead.

    “But I'm not even ruling out erotomania, that this guy was a stalker, perhaps, of Savannah, and he couldn't get to her”

    Listen from 1:28:12 · Erotomania

  • James Fitzgerald

    Fitzgerald maintains the crime was a successful abduction that was never intended as a for-profit kidnapping.

    “he does this thing again successful abduction I don't think it was ever meant to be a kidnapping”

    Listen from 1:28:12 · Disappearance of Nancy Guthrie

  • Megyn Kelly

    Kelly concludes the 'friend of the kidnapper' is a fraudster distinct from the author of the first two notes, on which she keeps an open mind.

    “I have an open mind on the first guy. Friend of Harvey seems like a complete fraudster”

    Listen from 1:46:59 · Disappearance of Nancy Guthrie

  • John Kelly

    John Kelly dismisses the TMZ correspondent as seeking fame and a Bitcoin payout.

    “This guy's looking for his 15 minutes of fame in a Bitcoin. That's about what this amounts to to me”

    Listen from 1:50:56 · Disappearance of Nancy Guthrie

  • James Fitzgerald

    Fitzgerald says he is glad the family did not pay a large ransom given the lack of proof of life.

    “I'm glad they didn't pay the big bucks to these people with such little information to provide”

    Listen from 1:54:52 · Disappearance of Nancy Guthrie

  • John Kelly

    John Kelly says he believes the FBI could have tracked a Bitcoin ransom payment, though he would defer to the FBI over Tucson police.

    “Do I believe the FBI could track that Bitcoin transaction? Absolutely”

    Listen from 1:59:22 · Federal Bureau of Investigation

  • James Fitzgerald

    Fitzgerald's profile holds that a single dominant offender directed the abduction even if he had a helper.

    “there's going to be an alpha male who is in charge of this”

    Listen from 2:01:57 · Disappearance of Nancy Guthrie

  • John Kelly

    John Kelly points to two other older women missing in Arizona with living situations similar to Nancy Guthrie's as potential linked cases.

    “there's two other women, similar looks. Older women that are missing in Arizona”

    Listen from 2:05:25 · Disappearance of Nancy Guthrie

People

In the conversation

  • Megyn KellyConservative broadcaster and podcaster
  • Jason WhitlockAmerican sports commentator and host of Fearless with Jason Whitlock
  • James FitzgeraldFormer FBI supervisory special agent, forensic linguist and co-host of the Cold Red podcast
  • John KellyCriminal profiler and psychotherapist

Discussed

  • Karmelo AnthonyTexas teen on trial for the fatal stabbing of Austin Metcalf
  • Austin Metcalf17-year-old Texas football player killed at a track meet in 2025
  • Stephanie WhiteIndiana Fever head coach
  • Alyssa ThomasPhoenix Mercury player suspended for a flagrant foul on Caitlin Clark
  • Diana TaurasiRetired WNBA star omitted from the league's anniversary poster
  • Lisa SaltersESPN reporter who conducted draft-night interviews
  • Nancy Guthrie84-year-old mother of Savannah Guthrie who disappeared on January 31
  • Savannah GuthrieNBC Today co-anchor and daughter of Nancy Guthrie
  • Harvey LevinTMZ founder who received and described the first ransom note
  • Howard BloomInvestigative reporter covering the Guthrie ransom notes
  • Maureen O'Connell25-year FBI veteran and co-host of the 'Best Case Worst Case' podcast
  • Henry Nowak18-year-old Anglo-Polish student fatally stabbed in Southampton in December 2025
  • Vikram DigwaDefendant accused of murdering Henry Nowak in Southampton
  • Dominique AlexanderTexas activist serving as spokesperson for the Anthony family
  • Donald TrumpPresident of the United States whose conduct of the Iran war is the episode's main subject

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From the publisher

Megyn Kelly is joined by Jason Whitlock, host of “Fearless with Jason Whitlock,” to discuss the latest arrest connected to the Karmelo Anthony case, how it's being turned into an absurd race issue, the cultural issues the case has brought to the forefront, the latest foul controversy surrounding Caitlin Clark and the WNBA, Clark’s alleged injury and time away from the court, the broader cultural conversations surrounding the league, her relationship with head coach Stephanie White, and more. Then, Megyn discusses the breaking news on the prosecutors in the Henry Nowak murder trial appealing Vickrum Digwa's lenient sentence, the police officers' poor handling of Nowak leading up to his death, the current state of law enforcement in the UK, and more. Plus, James Fitzgerald, co-host of "Cold Red Podcast,” and John Kelly, criminal profiler and psychotherapist, join to discuss new developments in the Nancy Guthrie investigation, the new CBS report on the first ransom note being addressed directly to Savannah Guthrie, questions about the note’s authenticity, what the unusual circumstances of the abduction may reveal about the kidnapper, a potential "friend" of Nancy Guthrie's abductor contacting TMZ, law enforcement's decision not to pay the ransom, whether investigators could have tracked the Bitcoin payment, why some experts believe authorities may be closing in on the suspect, and more. Whitlock- https://m.youtube.com/c/jasonwhitlock Fitzgerald-https://www.youtube.com/@ColdRedPodcast-tb2lb/featured Kelly- https://www.johnkellyllc.com/ Supersure Insurance: Upgrade your business insurance to a year-round SuperAgency at https://Supersure.com/Megyn Herald Group: Learn more at https://GuardYourCard.com Byrna: Go to https://Byrna.com or your local Sportsman's Warehouse today. Shopify: Launch your dream business with Shopify. Sign up for your $1/month trial at https://Shopify.com/Megyn and start selling today!

Summary, chapters and key points were generated from the episode transcript on September 29, 2026. Quotes are checked word for word against the transcript.

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