The Full BOMBSHELL Lance Twiggs Video, Plus New Robinson Texts Revealed, with Geragos, Murphy, Aronberg, Eiglarsh, and Frei | Ep. 1356

Episode of The Megyn Kelly Show · July 9, 2026 · 2 h 40 min

Megyn Kelly and legal analysts react live to the Tyler Robinson preliminary hearing, including Lance Twiggs's recorded interview and newly read Robinson text messages.

Summary

Megyn Kelly covered day four of the preliminary hearing for Tyler Robinson, accused of assassinating Charlie Kirk. She criticized the judge as weak and overly indulgent of defense objections, backed the Kirk family's motion to see evidence under Utah victims' rights law, and presented YouTuber Tom Swanson's unverified reporting from an anonymous friend describing Lance Twiggs's erratic behavior, drug use, alleged black-market hormone use, and relationship with Robinson.

Matt Murphy and Mark Geragos defended the judge as appropriately careful in a capital case, explaining Marsy's Law as a right without a remedy and the need to avoid tainting the jury pool. Geragos argued there was already probable cause to charge Twiggs as a co-defendant, while Murphy said DNA on the towel and screwdriver was not enough and explained use immunity. Murphy criticized Candace Owens's theories; Kelly defended her sincerity and raised reports of Israel-registered phones at Utah Valley University.

The court then played Twiggs's recorded interview, in which he described Robinson asking for a Dremel to engrave bullets, finding the note under Robinson's keyboard, and seeing Robinson at the apartment the day after the shooting, when Robinson confirmed the texts and cried. Agent Brian Davis then read the full text exchange, including previously unreleased lines, and testified to the Discord confession timeline and the Cellebrite extraction.

A second panel of Dave Aronberg, Mark Eiglarsh, and Viva Frei followed. Aronberg and Eiglarsh found Twiggs credible, and Eiglarsh suggested Robinson's remorse could help him avoid a death sentence or lead to a plea. Frei and Kelly doubted Twiggs's account and argued that others in the Discord chats may have had foreknowledge.

Chapters

  1. 0:01

    Hearing day four and the judge

    Kelly introduced the hearing, criticized the judge's handling of objections, and described the Kirk family's motion to see evidence.

  2. 4:40

    Turkey Tom's report on Twiggs and Robinson

    Kelly detailed Tom Swanson's reporting from an anonymous friend about life inside the Twiggs–Robinson apartment and their Discord chats.

  3. 24:31

    Geragos and Murphy defend the judge

    Murphy and Geragos argued the judge was being appropriately careful in a capital case and explained the limits of Marsy's Law.

  4. 37:33

    Should Twiggs be charged?

    Geragos argued there was probable cause to charge Twiggs, while Murphy explained use immunity and the absence of a right to cross-examination at prelims.

  5. 53:36

    Conspiracy theories and Candace Owens

    The panel discussed whether the lengthy hearing will quell conspiracy theories, and Kelly and Murphy disagreed over Candace Owens.

  6. 1:08:00

    Lance Twiggs's recorded interview

    The court played Twiggs's sworn interview about the Dremel, the keyboard note, and seeing Robinson the day after the shooting.

  7. 1:31:35

    Agent Davis reads the text messages

    Agent Brian Davis authenticated and read the full Robinson–Twiggs text exchange and testified about the Discord confession timeline.

  8. 1:51:46

    Kelly reacts to new details

    Kelly highlighted newly revealed texts and Robinson's return home the day after the murder, then read the earlier affectionate texts.

  9. 2:06:52

    Second panel on Twiggs's credibility

    Aronberg, Eiglarsh, and Frei assessed the testimony, the likelihood of a plea, and whether Twiggs could face accessory charges.

  10. 2:30:42

    Doubts about Twiggs and others' foreknowledge

    Kelly and Frei questioned Twiggs's account and whether Discord members knew in advance, while Eiglarsh and Aronberg found it plausible.

Key points

What was said, by whom, with the exact words. Timestamps jump to the moment.

  • Megyn Kelly

    Kelly argued the presiding judge is weak and inexperienced, overly indulging defense objections.

    “It is ridiculous how weak this judge has been. He was only put on the bench last May”

    Listen from 0:01 · Tyler Robinson preliminary hearing

  • Matt Murphy

    Murphy explained that Marsy's Law gives victims recognized rights but no mechanism to enforce them on appeal.

    “It is what is known as a right without a remedy. Victims have rights. It's recognized”

    Listen from 30:06 · Marsy's Law

  • Matt Murphy

    Murphy predicted Robinson will be bound over, convicted, and sentenced to death.

    “He's going to bind him over. He's going to go to trial. He's going to be found guilty and he's going to be sentenced to death”

    Listen from 30:35 · Capital punishment

  • Mark Geragos

    Geragos argued the judge limits public access to evidence to avoid a later challenge over a tainted jury pool.

    “That is so they don't have a challenge later on to a tainted jury pool”

    Listen from 36:20 · Tyler Robinson preliminary hearing

  • Mark Geragos

    Geragos argued there is already enough probable cause to hold Lance Twiggs to answer as a co-defendant.

    “There is more than enough probable cause that's been developed so far on Twiggs. This idea that he's a subject and not a co-conspirator is nonsense”

    Listen from 37:33 · Assassination of Charlie Kirk

  • Matt Murphy

    Murphy explained that Twiggs received use immunity, which protects his statements and their derivatives but not independently developed evidence.

    “The other is what's known as use immunity. That's also known in the federal world as queen for a day”

    Listen from 49:08 · Use immunity

  • Matt Murphy

    Murphy argued the defense's constant objections will alienate a jury and hurt the defense at trial.

    “This kind of object to everything, nails on a chalkboard, slow everything down. It's going to get worse in front of the jury”

    Listen from 57:10 · Tyler Robinson preliminary hearing

  • Megyn Kelly

    Kelly said Candace Owens is sincere and was traumatized by her friend's death, even though she disagrees with her theory.

    “I genuinely believe she was traumatized by watching her friend die”

    Listen from 1:02:13 · Conspiracy theories in the United States

  • Matt Murphy

    Murphy rejected Candace Owens's theories and said Israel did not kill Charlie Kirk.

    “Like Israel didn't kill Charlie Kirk. Sorry, they just didn't. This is this is this is a murder case”

    Listen from 1:03:23 · Conspiracy theories in the United States

  • Megyn Kelly

    Kelly said she was told that 11 to 14 Israel-registered cell phones were on the UVU campus that day, while saying this does not prove Israel was involved.

    “there were at least 11. There's a difference in 11 versus 14 Israel only cell phones on the campus of UVU that day”

    Listen from 1:04:35 · Conspiracy theories in the United States

  • Matt Murphy

    Murphy said Twiggs's DNA on evidence is not sufficient to charge him without proof he helped before or after the crime.

    “you really need to show that there was some sort of something beforehand or even after where he's helping. The DNA is not enough for me”

    Listen from 1:06:17 · DNA evidence

  • Lance Twiggs

    Twiggs said Robinson asked him for a Dremel because he wanted to engrave messages on bullets.

    “he asked me if we had a Dremel, because he said he wanted to engrave messages on bullets”

    Listen from 1:15:08 · Assassination of Charlie Kirk

  • Lance Twiggs

    Twiggs said that the day after the shooting he asked Robinson in person whether his texts were true, and Robinson confirmed it.

    “I just asked him in person if what he said was true the night before, and he said it was”

    Listen from 1:21:14 · Assassination of Charlie Kirk

  • Brian Davis

    Davis testified that Twiggs's phone was sent to the Regional Computer Forensic Laboratory for Cellebrite extraction, which recovered the photo of the note.

    “The FBI transported that phone to the RCFL, which is the Regional Computer Forensic Laboratory in Salt Lake City”

    Listen from 1:55:03 · Cellebrite

  • Dave Aronberg

    Aronberg found Twiggs credible and believed he had no part in the killing.

    “thought that Twiggs came across as credible. It sounds like he had no part in this, and he generally was shocked”

    Listen from 2:09:06 · Tyler Robinson preliminary hearing

  • Mark Eiglarsh

    Eiglarsh argued Robinson's expressed remorse makes it more likely he would accept a life-sentence plea deal if offered.

    “it's more likely, in my opinion, that he would accept something like that because of that remark, that he felt sorry for what he did”

    Listen from 2:12:28 · Plea bargaining

  • Viva Frei

    Frei said the testimony made him more convinced that Twiggs had some involvement.

    “I'm more convinced now than I was before that he had some involvement in this”

    Listen from 2:14:45 · Assassination of Charlie Kirk

  • Viva Frei

    Frei said he believes members of the Discord chats had advance knowledge and that more people were involved in the planning.

    “I'm convinced people in the Discord chats had advanced knowledge. I'm convinced there were more people involved in the planning”

    Listen from 2:15:14 · Discord

  • Dave Aronberg

    Aronberg noted that Twiggs's limited use immunity means prosecutors could still charge him based on independent evidence.

    “He's only been given use immunity for his testimony. So that means they could develop independently evidence against him”

    Listen from 2:18:29 · Use immunity

  • Mark Eiglarsh

    Eiglarsh warned that evidence of Robinson's remorse could sway at least one juror against a death sentence, which requires unanimity.

    “that could have an impact on at least one of the 12 jurors”

    Listen from 2:24:39 · Capital punishment

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    Megyn Kelly

    Kelly said she does not believe Twiggs's account that he merely asked Robinson whether his confession was true.

    “I just don't believe, I don't believe that just your lover has just committed a murder”

    Listen from 2:32:56 · Tyler Robinson preliminary hearing

  • Megyn Kelly

    Kelly said FBI Director Kash Patel told her the FBI would investigate the Discord chat participants.

    “I asked Kash Patel about that directly on this show. I asked him about whether they'd be doing that. And he said, yes”

    Listen from 2:39:00 · Federal Bureau of Investigation

People

In the conversation

  • Megyn KellyConservative broadcaster and podcaster
  • Matt MurphyFormer prosecutor quoted asking where the district attorney is in the Guthrie case
  • Mark GeragosAmerican criminal defense attorney who represented Michael Jackson; co-host of In the Well
  • Dave AronbergFormer Florida state attorney and co-host of The MK True Crime Show
  • Mark EiglarshFlorida criminal defense attorney and co-host of Positively Legal
  • Viva FreiCanadian lawyer turned Rumble host and commentator
  • Lance TwiggsRobinson's partner and alleged recipient of his text messages
  • Brian Davis

Discussed

  • Charlie KirkAmerican conservative activist and podcast host assassinated in September 2025
  • Tyler RobinsonSuspect in the Charlie Kirk assassination
  • Erika KirkAmerican figure Trump reportedly told to sue over a comedy sketch
  • Candace OwensConservative commentator and podcaster cited as a top-ranked show
  • Kash PatelDirector of the Federal Bureau of Investigation
  • Andrew KolvetTurning Point USA spokesperson
  • Lance ItoJudge who presided over the O.J. Simpson trial
  • Brian EntinReporter who covered polygraph testing in the Guthrie case
  • Joe KentFormer U.S. official who resigned and disputed stated motives for the Iran conflict
  • Ken KlippensteinInvestigative journalist who reported the Discord confession

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From the publisher

Megyn Kelly plays the full Lance Twiggs recording shown during the Tyler Robinson preliminary hearing, featuring Twiggs’ account of Robinson’s actions before and after the assassination of Charlie Kirk, new information showing Twiggs interacted with Robinson personally the day after the shooting, the new Lance Twiggs and Tyler Robinson text messages that were read in court, and more. Plus, "Turkey Tom" Tom Swanson’s reporting on the man alleged to have assassinated Charlie Kirk Tyler Robinson, alleged new details from a source about Lance Twiggs and Robinson’s lives before the killing, and serious questions about Twiggs' mental state alleged by the source. And legal experts and hosts Matt Murphy, Mark Geragos, Dave Aronberg, Mark Eiglarsh, and Viva Frei, join to discuss the judge’s constant delays in the Tyler Robinson hearing, whether he's following protocol or if he's in over his head, the debate over whether the court is keeping critical information from the public, whether Lance Twiggs could face co-conspirator charges, the significance of his DNA allegedly being found on key evidence along with Robinson's, the implications of his use immunity agreement, the biggest revelations from Lance Twiggs’ video played in court, the significance of the Lance Twiggs testimony played at the Robinson hearing, growing questions about Twiggs’ potential involvement or foreknowledge, what the evidence surrounding the engraved bullets could mean for the prosecution, whether Lance Twiggs might have been lying in his recorded video, what others may have known about what Robinson was planning, and more. Subscribe to MK True Crime to find ALL the shows: Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mk-true-crime/id1829831499 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4o80I2RSC2NvY51TIaKkJW YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@MKTrueCrime?sub_confirmation=1 Frei- https://rumble.com/user/vivafrei Supersure Insurance: Upgrade your business insurance to a year-round SuperAgency at https://Super…

Summary, chapters and key points were generated from the episode transcript on September 30, 2026. Quotes are checked word for word against the transcript.

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