UK's Righteous Anger, Karmelo Anthony's Parents' Lies, and Cheating in LA Mayor Race, with Laurence Fox and Mike Solana | Ep. 1337
Episode of The Megyn Kelly Show · June 11, 2026 · 2 h 4 min
Megyn Kelly talks with Laurence Fox about UK anger over a Belfast attack and migration, then with Mike Solana about the Karmelo Anthony verdict, LA mayor race, and AI.
Summary
Megyn Kelly opened with the attempted beheading of Stephen Ogilvie in Belfast by a Sudanese asylum recipient, criticizing the fast-track asylum questionnaire process introduced under Rishi Sunak and media coverage blaming Elon Musk and Tommy Robinson for ensuing protests. Actor and activist Laurence Fox argued that multiculturalism had failed, predicted rising unrest and possibly civil war in Britain, praised Tommy Robinson and Rupert Lowe's Restore Britain party over Nigel Farage's Reform, raised feminism's role in voting patterns, and discussed his upcoming Oxford Union debate on Islam.
Kelly then devoted a solo segment to the aftermath of Karmelo Anthony's murder conviction for killing Austin Metcalf, criticizing Anthony's parents' interviews claiming the trial was a setup, Jasmine Crockett's self-defense analogy, and supporters' harassment of the Metcalf family. She played clips of Jeff Metcalf and recommended the example of bereaved parents Allison and Tom Barklage.
Mike Solana of Pirate Wires argued the reaction reflected disproportionate racial animus and worried about the future of fair trials. The two discussed alleged irregularities in the Los Angeles mayoral election, including homeless voter registration and ballot harvesting, which Solana called rigged though not proven fraud, and Jimmy Kimmel's mockery of Spencer Pratt. Finally, Kelly floated a public stake in AI to pay down the national debt; Solana called Bernie Sanders' proposal communist, argued AI messaging has been poor, and defended tech figures as a counterweight to the left.
Chapters
- 0:00
The Belfast attempted beheading
Kelly outlines the Belfast attack, the attacker's asylum approval, and media blame on Musk and Robinson.
- 6:19
Laurence Fox on British rage
Fox argues multiculturalism has failed and predicts growing unrest in Britain.
- 11:55
Asylum backlog, feminism and UK politics
Kelly and Fox discuss Sunak's asylum policy, feminism, Reform UK and Restore Britain.
- 26:57
Blame on Musk and Robinson
Clips of Cathy Newman and Michelle O'Neill prompt discussion of free speech and two-tier justice.
- 46:12
Oxford Union debate
Fox discusses the reinstated Oxford debate on whether the West should be suspicious of Islam.
- 52:05
Karmelo Anthony verdict fallout
Kelly criticizes Anthony's parents, Jasmine Crockett and supporters after the murder conviction.
- 1:07:52
Jeff Metcalf and grief
Kelly plays Jeff Metcalf's remarks and highlights the Barklage family's approach to grief.
- 1:21:55
Solana on racial reaction to the verdict
Solana and Kelly discuss racial animus, jury selection and the future of fair trials.
- 1:31:54
LA mayor race and homeless ballots
They examine allegations of paid homeless voting and ballot harvesting in the LA mayoral election.
- 1:44:47
Kimmel mocks Spencer Pratt
Kelly and Solana criticize Jimmy Kimmel's segment and experience-based attacks on Pratt.
- 1:51:49
AI, Bernie Sanders and public stakes
Kelly proposes a public stake in AI while Solana rejects Sanders' proposal as communist.
Key points
What was said, by whom, with the exact words. Timestamps jump to the moment.
- Megyn Kelly
Kelly criticized the UK granting the Belfast attacker asylum based solely on a paper questionnaire without any interview.
“No one actually interacted with him. They just read his paper statement”
- Laurence FoxDidn’t happen
Fox predicted a severely right-wing party would do extremely well in an upcoming by-election.
“So you're going to see a very, very, very severely right-wing party do extremely, extremely well”
- Laurence Fox
Fox argued multiculturalism is a failed idea because groups cannot coexist in harmony.
“this disgusting idea of multiculturalism, actually, which is that we can all coexist together in happy harmony. We can't”
- Laurence Fox
Fox claimed the story would not have received national or international attention without Elon Musk.
“Without Elon Musk, this story would not be in the national media. It wouldn't be in the international media”
- Laurence Fox
Fox said he believes Britain is probably heading for civil war.
“We're heading for, I would say, we're probably heading for civil war. I can't see another way”
- Laurence Fox
Fox called Reform an establishment-run party and endorsed Rupert Lowe's Restore Britain as offering a British Trump.
“Rupert Lowe is coming in to say, I'm going to deport all of these people. They're gone. And I'm going to get rid of DEI”
- Laurence Fox
Fox said he distinguishes between hating Islam as an ideology and not hating individual Muslims.
“I don't want to go in and say I hate Muslims. I don't. I love Muslims. I hate Islam and I will always hate Islam”
- Megyn Kelly
Kelly argued there is no evidence race played a role on Austin Metcalf's part in the case.
“there's zero evidence that race played any role in this case. Although if it did, it was on Carmelo Anthony's part”
- Mike Solana
Solana argued polling shows disproportionate racism among black Americans toward other groups.
“black Americans have disproportionately higher degrees of racism against other groups and especially white people”
- Mike Solana
Solana worried that growing tribalism could undermine the ability to maintain fair trials.
“if people start identifying tribalistically rather than identifying with classic American principles like fairness in a trial, I don't know how we maintain this”
- Megyn Kelly
Kelly disputed the parents' claim of an all-white jury, saying it included Hispanic and Asian jurors.
“There were no blacks on the jury, but it was not an all white jury. There were Hispanics. There were Asians”
- Mike Solana
Solana cited reporting of about 7,500 homeless-associated ballots and called the setup a recipe for fraud.
“The Post was reporting something like 7,500 associated homeless ballots being turned in to these sort of centers, right?”
- Mike Solana
Solana said he had not seen hard evidence of fraud but considered the system rigged against non-left candidates.
“I haven't seen I have myself have not seen hard evidence of fraud”
- Megyn Kelly
Kelly argued rules allowing witnessed ballot marks were meant for disabled voters, not for operatives to corral Skid Row residents, and called it cheating.
“If the law is set up to say you can mark your ballot with an X or a slash, they are thinking about an elderly person who suffered a stroke”
- Mike Solana
Solana argued mass mail-in voting is new and activists have learned to game it, which will worsen without reform.
“And we are now in the gaming the system moment. And if we don't do something about it, it's just going to get a lot worse”
- Mike Solana
Solana argued Kimmel mocked Pratt because Pratt was successfully spreading a message contrary to the party line.
“Anyone who is successful at getting a message out that is contrary to the state message is going to be punished by the state sock puppets”
- Mike Solana
Solana said that if government involvement in AI were warranted, it should purchase a stake rather than seize it.
“At that point, what I would want is for the government to purchase the stake, not just seize it”
- Mike Solana
Solana argued claims of AI-driven tech job loss are exaggerated.
“I think a lot has been made of the job loss in tech that's not actually accurate. I see a lot of evidence that those numbers are kind of hyperinflated”
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Megyn KellyKelly proposed that the public take a stake in AI companies and use it to pay down the national debt rather than send checks.
“My idea on Sean Ryan was we should use it to pay down the national debt, whatever huge portion of it we're going to take”
- Mike Solana
Solana argued that Sanders and California unions target tech billionaires because they threaten left-wing political power.
“they see tech people as a counterpoint to to machine left power. It is completely a game of power”
People
In the conversation
- Megyn KellyConservative broadcaster and podcaster
- Laurence FoxBritish actor and activist involved in a cancelled Oxford Union debate
- Mike SolanaFounder and editor-in-chief of Pirate Wires and chief marketing officer of Founders Fund
Discussed
- Tommy RobinsonBritish anti-immigration activist
- Elon MuskEntrepreneur behind X, xAI and SpaceX, discussed in AI competition
- Rishi SunakFormer UK prime minister
- Stephen OgilvieVictim of the Belfast attempted beheading
- Nigel FarageBritish politician who criticized banning people for their speech
- Rupert LoweLeader of the Restore Britain party
- Michelle O'NeillNorthern Ireland First Minister
- Keir StarmerPrime Minister of the United Kingdom
- Karmelo AnthonyTexas teen on trial for the fatal stabbing of Austin Metcalf
- Austin Metcalf17-year-old Texas football player killed at a track meet in 2025
- Jasmine CrockettU.S. representative from Texas
- Spencer PrattReality TV personality running for mayor of Los Angeles
- Karen BassMayor of Los Angeles, referenced regarding city-level policy conflicts
- Nithya RamanLos Angeles city councilmember and democratic socialist mayoral candidate
- Jimmy KimmelABC late-night host targeted by the White House
- Bernie SandersU.S. Senator from Vermont who discussed mail-in ballots before the 2020 election
- Sam AltmanCEO of OpenAI, cited by Hudson as an example of a 'maximalist'
- Jack SchlossbergSon of Caroline Kennedy and New York congressional candidate
Topics
- 2026 Belfast attempted beheading
- Immigration to the United Kingdom
- Killing of Austin Metcalf
- 2026 Los Angeles mayoral election
- Killing of Henry Nowak
- Postal voting in the United States
- Homelessness in Los Angeles
- Artificial intelligence
- Technological unemployment
- Freedom of speech in the United Kingdom
- Feminism
- Oxford Union
- Restore Britain
- Late-night television hosting
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From the publisher
Megyn Kelly is joined by Laurence Fox, actor and activist, to discuss the latest protests and waves of outrage in the UK after the attempted beheading in Northern Ireland by a migrant, legitimate concerns about mass migration and a focus on "diversity" in Europe, the political impact of modern feminism and feminized men, the open borders and mass migration that have ruined Europe and the UK, why Tommy Robinson's message is resonating with UK citizens and terrifying the establishment, Elon Musk’s support for free speech in the UK, and more. Then Megyn discusses the outrageous response from Karmelo Anthony supporters after the verdict, absurd comments from Anthony's parents trying to play the victim, the false claims of racism, Jeff Metcalf’s emotional comments about his late son Austin, criticism of the Anthony family’s response to the case and treatment of him and his family, and more. Then Mike Solana, editor-in-chief of Pirate Wires, joins to discuss the disturbing and dark truth about the reaction to the Karmelo Anthony verdict from his supporters, the way racism is still being used as to shift the narrative, legitimate reasons to say "cheating" was involved in stopping Spencer Pratt in the LA mayor race, proof that homeless people were paid to vote for Democratic candidates, the danger of Pratt and why the establishment was so against him, Jimmy Kimmel's outrageous response to Pratt, the dangers of AI but also dangers of Bernie Sanders trying to nationalize AI, and more. Fox- https://x.com/LozzaFox Solana- https://www.piratewires.com/ Supersure Insurance: Upgrade your business insurance to a year-round SuperAgency at https://Supersure.com/Megyn Quo: Make this the season where no opportunity slips away. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to https://www.Quo.com/MK Relief Factor: Reclaim your mobility and celebrate your freedom from aches this year by grabbing your $17.76 3-week QuickStart at https://ReliefFactor.com or by calling 80…
Summary, chapters and key points were generated from the episode transcript on September 29, 2026. Quotes are checked word for word against the transcript.