Knicks in Five: Thursday, June 11th, 2026

Episode of The Toast · June 11, 2026 · 1 h 2 min

Claudia Oshry and husband Ben Soffer recap attending the Knicks' 29-point NBA Finals Game 4 comeback, celebrity sightings, Taylor Swift drama, and Summer House news.

Summary

With Jackie Oshry out, Claudia Oshry was joined by her husband Ben Soffer, who had attended Game 4 of the 2026 NBA Finals at Madison Square Garden with her. They described the Knicks recovering from a 29-point deficit against the San Antonio Spurs, with Soffer calling it the greatest game in basketball history and crediting OG Anunoby, whom he said scored 33 points on 15 shots, with a chase-down block and the game-winning tip-in. Soffer argued the Knicks should close out the series in San Antonio and complained about late start times.

Oshry covered celebrity attendance, including Taylor Swift's appearance with Haim in Stevie Nicks-themed shirts and a hug with Kylie Jenner despite Swift's feud with Kim Kardashian. She discussed Selena Gomez's cryptic Instagram posts about bandwagon fans, crowd reactions to various celebrities, and rumors that Swift's wedding would be held at the Garden. Both hosts rejected gatekeeping of new Knicks fans.

They condemned fans who pelted Victor Wembanyama with eggs and damaged property; Soffer called Wembanyama a dirty player but said hostility should stay on the court. The episode closed with Summer House topics: Jesse Solomon's timeline of the West Wilson and Amanda Batula romance, Soffer's criticism of Kyle Cooke's redemption arc, and Andy Cohen's claim that Jennifer Lawrence helped solve the reunion audio leak, which Oshry suggested might be untrue.

Chapters

  1. 0:25

    Post-game euphoria

    Oshry introduces Ben Soffer and the pair describe attending the Knicks' historic Game 4 comeback at Madison Square Garden.

  2. 9:43

    Game breakdown and series outlook

    Soffer credits OG Anunoby and Jalen Brunson, discusses the final tip-in, and weighs whether the Knicks can close out the Spurs.

  3. 20:46

    Taylor Swift and Kylie Jenner at the Garden

    Oshry discusses Swift's attendance, the Stevie Nicks shirts, Rick Brunson's history, and Swift's hug with Kylie Jenner amid the Kardashian feud.

  4. 32:15

    Selena Gomez's cryptic comments and bandwagon fans

    The hosts analyze Selena Gomez's posts about sudden Knicks fans, reject gatekeeping, and discuss celebrity crowd reactions.

  5. 38:08

    Taylor Swift's rumored Garden wedding

    Oshry explains why Madison Square Garden might make sense as a private venue for Swift's wedding.

  6. 39:55

    Wembanyama egged and fan misconduct

    The hosts condemn fans who threw eggs at Victor Wembanyama and damaged property, while Soffer calls Wembanyama a dirty player.

  7. 51:51

    Jesse Solomon's Summer House timeline

    Oshry covers Jesse Solomon's timeline of the West Wilson and Amanda Batula romance and Soffer's upcoming dinner with Solomon.

  8. 55:52

    Kyle Cooke and the reunion leak

    Soffer criticizes Kyle Cooke's redemption arc and Oshry doubts Andy Cohen's claim that Jennifer Lawrence solved the reunion leak.

  9. 59:41

    Wrap-up

    The hosts reminisce about the crowd around them and sign off.

Key points

What was said, by whom, with the exact words. Timestamps jump to the moment.

  • Ben Soffer

    Soffer calls Game 4 the greatest game in basketball history and what sports are about.

    “We watched the greatest game in the history of basketball. And by the way, if you're not a sports fan, That night, like last night, is what sports are about”

    Listen from 8:02 · 2026 NBA Finals

  • Linked moment · 9:43Skip to 9:43 using a listen link in the info box.

    Ben Soffer

    Soffer argues that OG Anunoby was the game's MVP, noting 33 points on 15 shots.

    “He had 33 points on 15 shots, which is an unbelievable ratio, okay?”

    Listen from 9:58 · 2026 NBA Finals

  • Ben Soffer

    Soffer explains that Brunson's late shot drew Wembanyama out of the paint, allowing Anunoby's tip-in.

    “Jalen Brunson shot that ball with six seconds left over Wemby, which took Wemby out of the paint so OG could crash and get that tip-in”

    Listen from 10:45 · 2026 NBA Finals

  • Ben Soffer

    Soffer argues NBA Finals games should start at 7:30 rather than 8:30 to prioritize East Coast fans.

    “Why are they starting? Starting at 830. It's a problem. Just start at 730. Who gives a shit about Los Angeles?”

    Listen from 12:19 · 2026 NBA Finals

  • Claudia Oshry

    Oshry argues Swift has not forgiven Kim Kardashian, citing her song "Thank You aIMee."

    “She wrote a song called Thank You, Amy, where the K, the I, and the M are all capitalized. Like she fucking hates Kim”

    Listen from 27:43 · Taylor Swift–Kim Kardashian feud

  • Ben SofferCame true

    Soffer predicts the Knicks will win Game 5 in San Antonio to close out the series.

    “But let me tell you, I really think that was our closeout. I don't know how you go to San Antonio and lose”

    Listen from 32:01 · 2026 NBA Finals

  • Claudia Oshry

    Oshry criticizes gatekeeping of Knicks fandom, saying more fans make it more exciting.

    “That shit pisses me off. People like gatekeeping the Knicks. It's cool that even if you don't live here, it's so exciting”

    Listen from 35:26 · Bandwagon fans

  • Ben Soffer

    Soffer says new Knicks fans do not make tickets harder to get and are simply rooting for the team.

    “These new Knick fans are not coming up to old Knick fans claiming that they're bigger Knick fans. They're just also Knick fans”

    Listen from 35:58 · Bandwagon fans

  • Claudia Oshry

    Oshry argues Madison Square Garden would suit Swift's wedding because it is windowless and drone-proof.

    “Because it's so private. There's no windows. You can't fly a drone over. Like it's literally and it's a thousand person wedding”

    Listen from 38:31 · Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce wedding

  • Ben Soffer

    Soffer calls Wembanyama a dirty player, attributing it to the overseas style of play he learned in France.

    “They play dirty overseas. That's a fact. This is a different brand of basketball and he is playing an overseas brand of basketball”

    Listen from 41:07 · San Antonio Spurs

  • Ben Soffer

    Soffer argues the people who egged Wembanyama and destroyed property are not real Knicks fans but chaos-seeking hooligans.

    “And they are not Knick fans. They are just... Hooligans in disguise who love chaos. That's it”

    Listen from 41:48 · Sports fan violence

  • Ben Soffer

    Soffer says on-court rivalry should never extend to personal harassment of players.

    “That said, it stays on the court. You do not throw eggs at somebody. You do not curse at somebody in person”

    Listen from 44:05 · Sports fan violence

  • Ben Soffer

    Soffer predicts Wembanyama will spend his whole career with the Spurs.

    “He'll never leave San Antonio. This is like their generational decades long. This is their guy. He will retire a spur”

    Listen from 44:29 · San Antonio Spurs

  • Ben Soffer

    Soffer argues reality TV stars must use it to build a career or it will ruin their lives.

    “it's a job and you use that job to propel a career yeah otherwise it just fucking ruins your life”

    Listen from 55:00 · Summer House (TV series)

  • Ben Soffer

    Soffer objects to Kyle Cooke being portrayed as a good guy simply because his ex-wife behaved badly, and calls West Wilson the villain.

    “I just like this idea that he is now all of a sudden a good guy just because his ex-wife... did something bad. The real villain here is very clearly West”

    Listen from 57:25 · Summer House (TV series)

  • Claudia Oshry

    Oshry suspects Andy Cohen is falsely crediting Jennifer Lawrence with solving the reunion leak because the rumor was convenient.

    “there's this really convenient rumor that it was Jennifer Lawrence and like they can't prove that it wasn't”

    Listen from 59:18 · Watch What Happens Live with Andy Cohen

People

In the conversation

  • Claudia OshryAmerican media personality, podcaster and co-host of The Toast, known as Girl With No Job
  • Ben SofferEntrepreneur behind Spritz Society, co-host of the Good Guys podcast and husband of Claudia Oshry

Discussed

Topics

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From the publisher

1. Taylor Swift has Knicks game run-in with Kylie Jenner after Kim Kardashian feud (Page Six) (21:33) 2. Fans Are Confused By Selena Gomez’s Cryptic Comment Under A Pic Of Taylor Swift At A Knicks Game (Buzzfeed) (32:16) 3. Victor Wembanyama gets pelted with eggs after Knicks’ historic comeback (Basketball Network) (40:01) 4.Summer House's Jesse Solomon Drops Complete Timeline of West Wilson and Amanda Batula's Secret Romance: Every New Detail (PEOPLE) (51:51) 5. Andy Cohen finally exposes A-lister who solved ‘Summer House’ reunion leak (Page Six) (55:52) The Toast with Ben Soffer (@boywithnojob) and Claudia Oshry (@girlwithnojob) ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Toast Patreon ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Toast Merch ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Girl With No Job by Claudia Oshry ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Camper & The Counselor⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Lean In⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Summary, chapters and key points were generated from the episode transcript on September 29, 2026. Quotes are checked word for word against the transcript.