Nicolandria Incorporated: Wednesday, May 6th, 2026

Episode of The Toast · May 6, 2026 · 1 h 11 min

Sisters Claudia and Jackie Oshry discuss Kim Kardashian's bar exam pause, the Lively–Baldoni settlement, Lizzo's lawsuit, Summer House drama, Love Island skepticism and listener advice.

Summary

Claudia and Jackie Oshry opened with chatter about their Summer House viewing, Jackie's book club podcast, and a renewed argument that Love Island USA couple Nic and Olandria's relationship was a publicity arrangement, which Claudia said was being vindicated by a Vulture article and shifting fan sentiment. They also criticized the show's audience voting.

In the news segment, the hosts discussed reports that Kim Kardashian would not retake the bar exam until 2027; Claudia argued she must see it through, while Jackie said it was acceptable to give up. They covered the zero-dollar settlement between Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni, Lively's pending fee motion, and reports that she attended the Met Gala as Anna Wintour's guest. A story about Rory McIlroy telling Travis Kelce about his upcoming wedding to Taylor Swift led to a discussion of the reported end of Saudi funding for LIV Golf, remote podcasting, and Claudia's account of losing professional ambition after becoming a mother.

On Lizzo's interview with Gayle King about lawsuits from former dancers, Claudia described Lizzo as effectively canceled and argued that cancellations stick when allegations contradict a public persona, though she said she was inclined to believe Lizzo for refusing to settle. The hosts then criticized KJ Dillard for reading West Wilson's apology text on Watch What Happens Live and recapped the latest Summer House episode.

The episode closed with the Dear Toasters advice segment, in which the hosts advised a mother to keep her baby away from a paroled sex-offender relative, told a wife to let go of an old journal entry by her husband, and debated whether a boyfriend's past hookup with his stepsister was a deal breaker, digressing into the film Clueless.

Chapters

  1. 0:03

    Opening banter

    The hosts open the show, preview Dear Toasters, and discuss Jackie's book club podcast.

  2. 5:11

    Nicolandria truthers

    The hosts argue the Love Island USA couple Nic and Olandria is a PR relationship and criticize the show's fan voting.

  3. 21:15

    Kim Kardashian's bar exam

    The sisters debate whether Kim Kardashian should keep pursuing the bar exam after reports she will wait until 2027.

  4. 26:09

    Lively–Baldoni settlement and Met Gala

    Discussion of the zero-dollar settlement, legal bills, and Blake Lively attending the Met Gala as Anna Wintour's guest.

  5. 31:49

    Travis Kelce, Rory McIlroy and LIV Golf

    McIlroy's wedding comments on New Heights prompt a tangent on the reported end of Saudi funding for LIV Golf.

  6. 36:28

    Remote podcasting and motherhood

    The hosts praise remote podcast setups and Claudia describes losing ambition after becoming a mother.

  7. 41:29

    Lizzo's lawsuit and cancel culture

    The hosts discuss Lizzo's vow to testify and why some cancellations stick.

  8. 50:46

    Summer House and Watch What Happens Live

    Criticism of KJ Dillard reading West Wilson's apology text on air and a recap of the latest episode.

  9. 58:54

    Dear Toasters advice

    The hosts answer letters about a sex-offender in-law, a husband's old journal, and a boyfriend who hooked up with his stepsister.

Key points

What was said, by whom, with the exact words. Timestamps jump to the moment.

  • Claudia Oshry

    Claudia Oshry argues that the Love Island USA pairing of Nic and Olandria is a fake, PR-driven relationship.

    “we know that this is a fake relationship. It's just extremely convenient. It's a well-executed PR relationship, but we have seen through it from day one”

    Listen from 5:25 · Love Island USA

  • Claudia Oshry

    Claudia Oshry argues Love Island USA gives its fan voters too much power over outcomes.

    “They need to put some systems in place to make sure something like that never happens again. The fans have too much power on that show”

    Listen from 9:42 · Love Island USA

  • Claudia Oshry

    Claudia Oshry argues Kim Kardashian must continue until she passes the bar exam.

    “she has to see this through and she has to pass. Like there's no option”

    Listen from 21:42 · Kim Kardashian's bar exam attempts

  • Jackie Oshry

    Jackie Oshry contends that, unlike John F. Kennedy Jr., Kardashian pursued law as a hobby that has become more trouble than it is worth.

    “Like for Kim, this was meant to be a hobby. Really? She has become more trouble than it's worth”

    Listen from 22:09 · Kim Kardashian's bar exam attempts

  • Jackie Oshry

    Jackie Oshry says a zero-dollar settlement made sense because a federal trial would have harmed both Lively and Baldoni.

    “it makes complete sense that no one had to pay anyone to just end this”

    Listen from 27:04 · Lively v. Wayfarer Studios

  • Claudia Oshry

    Claudia Oshry reports that Blake Lively attended the Met Gala as a guest of Anna Wintour rather than uninvited.

    “confirmed that she was actually a guest of Anna Wintour. And I guess Anna can invite whoever she wants at her discretion”

    Listen from 27:54 · 2026 Met Gala

  • Claudia Oshry

    Claudia Oshry suggests golfers who refused huge LIV deals lost out if the league is ending within a few years.

    “the people who like stood their ground and didn't take $500 million deals just for like this whole thing to be over in a few years”

    Listen from 34:06 · LIV Golf

  • Jackie Oshry

    Jackie Oshry argues that the end of LIV Golf funding makes the players who joined look bad.

    “I do think net net like it's not good for the live players. I think they look like idiots”

    Listen from 36:24 · LIV Golf

  • Claudia Oshry

    Claudia Oshry says motherhood drained her professional ambition and that she has embraced it.

    “My personal experience with motherhood has been like, it drained me of any ambition and I love it”

    Listen from 38:08 · Motherhood and career ambition

  • Claudia Oshry

    Claudia Oshry argues Lizzo is among the few celebrities genuinely wiped out by cancel culture.

    “there are some people who it genuinely wipes out. And I feel like Lizzo is one of those people”

    Listen from 43:12 · Cancel culture

  • Claudia Oshry

    Claudia Oshry argues cancellations are most effective when allegations contradict a celebrity's public persona, citing Ellen DeGeneres and Lizzo.

    “You can't have a show about kindness and be the nastiest bitch on the planet. You can't be a body positive queen who's calling all your dancers fat”

    Listen from 45:15 · Cancel culture

  • Claudia Oshry

    Claudia Oshry says she is inclined to believe Lizzo because she declined to settle.

    “I am inclined to believe her only because she had an opportunity to settle”

    Listen from 46:03 · Lizzo dancers lawsuit

  • Linked moment · 54:11Skip to 54:11 using a listen link in the info box.

    Claudia Oshry

    Claudia Oshry criticizes KJ Dillard for reading West Wilson's private apology text on live television.

    “So the reading of it on TV, I just feel I honestly thought it was really unnecessary and rude”

    Listen from 54:11 · Watch What Happens Live with Andy Cohen

  • Jackie Oshry

    Jackie Oshry says she believes Amanda and West's account that they hid their relationship for only about a month.

    “i do believe the timeline of amanda and west i think they had like a month or so where they were lying about it”

    Listen from 55:42 · Summer House (TV series)

  • Claudia Oshry

    Claudia Oshry advises a mother to cut contact rather than let her daughter be around a paroled sex-offender relative.

    “It's giving no contact. I'm sorry. You'll have to go somewhere else for the holidays”

    Listen from 59:53 · Dear Toasters advice segment

  • Claudia Oshry

    Claudia Oshry argues one cannot be angry about what someone wrote in a private journal.

    “you're really not ever allowed to be mad at something someone wrote in their journal because people are allowed to have thoughts”

    Listen from 1:01:24 · Dear Toasters advice segment

  • Jackie Oshry

    Jackie Oshry argues that pre-engagement relationship doubts are often resolved by committing and starting a family.

    “sometimes some things can be solved when you do decide to commit to somebody and propose and start a life and start a family”

    Listen from 1:02:37 · Dear Toasters advice segment

  • Claudia Oshry

    Claudia Oshry declares a boyfriend's past hookup with his stepsister a deal breaker.

    “Yeah, I have to say, I think it's disgusting, and I do think it's a deal breaker”

    Listen from 1:06:00 · Dear Toasters advice segment

People

In the conversation

  • Claudia OshryAmerican media personality, podcaster and co-host of The Toast, known as Girl With No Job
  • Jackie OshryAmerican podcaster and co-host of The Toast, Claudia Oshry's sister

Discussed

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From the publisher

1. Kim Kardashian makes difficult decision in law journey after multiple failed bar exam attempts (Page Six) (21:15) 2. Blake Lively Made No Money in Justin Baldoni Settlement, But Legal Fight Is Not Quite Over (Variety) (26:14) 3. Travis Kelce Says He 'Can't Wait' for This Element of His Wedding to Taylor Swift (PEOPLE) (31:49) 4. Lizzo Says 'Truth Will Come Out' in Legal Battle, Ready to Testify (TMZ) (41:29) 5. Summer House’s KJ Dillard Reads West Wilson’s Post-Reunion Apology Text to Him Live on Air (US Weekly) (50:48) - Dear Toasters Advice Segment (58:54) The Toast with Jackie (@JackieOshry) and Claudia Oshry (@girlwithnojob) ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Toast Patreon ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Toast Merch ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Girl With No Job by Claudia Oshry ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Camper & The Counselor⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Lean In⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Summary, chapters and key points were generated from the episode transcript on September 27, 2026. Quotes are checked word for word against the transcript.

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