#688 - Candace Owens

Episode of This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von · October 5, 2026 · 2 h 22 min

Theo Von and a heavily pregnant Candace Owens discuss Hollywood, Brigitte Macron's lawsuit, the Epstein files, and her doubts about the official account of Charlie Kirk's assassination.

Summary

Candace Owens, pregnant with her fifth child, joined Theo Von for a wide-ranging conversation. They opened with banter about her pregnancy and her decision to keep her children off the internet, then moved to Britney Spears's conservatorship, which Owens called forced drugging, and to claims she attributed to Courtney Love about a Hollywood 'publishing rights mafia.' The two also discussed debanking, social credit systems, cancel culture, COVID-era restrictions, and President Trump's plan to import Argentine beef.

Owens argued that Trump's second term changed because of the Epstein files and donations from Miriam Adelson. She described the defamation lawsuit brought against her by Emmanuel and Brigitte Macron, said Trump phoned her in February 2025 asking her to stop talking about Brigitte, and credited French journalist Xavier Poussard's book Becoming Brigitte as the basis for her series. She also said a smear campaign had used an old college video of hers. Other topics included the dead internet theory, bots on X, and cash found in a wall at Joel Osteen's Lakewood Church.

The longest segment covered the assassination of Charlie Kirk. Owens cited Utah Valley University's independent review, which she said showed that Turning Point USA headquarters insisted on the outdoor venue, controlled ticketing, and declined an ambulance. She said she does not believe Tyler Robinson killed Kirk and found the alleged text-message confession unconvincing. She suggested Robinson's partner Lance Twiggs was more involved, and gave her opinion that Kirk was killed by the 'deep state' over his shifting views on Israel. The episode closed with Peter Thiel's Antichrist lectures in Nashville and Owens's pregnancy, including her past use of castor oil to induce labor.

Chapters

0:00
Pregnancy banter and keeping kids offline
Theo Von welcomes a pregnant Candace Owens, and she explains why she does not post her children online.
9:01
Britney Spears and Hollywood control
Owens discusses Britney Spears's conservatorship, lithium, and Courtney Love's claims about a publishing-rights mafia targeting artists.
17:04
Debanking and social credit
The pair discuss Wendy Williams, Kanye West's debanking, Black Mirror's 'Nosedive,' and cancel culture as a social credit system.
33:26
Netanyahu, COVID, and Trump's second term
They discuss Netanyahu, COVID-era Zoom funerals, Fauci, Argentine beef imports, and Owens's view that the Epstein files changed Trump.
43:43
Macron lawsuit and the Epstein-France connection
Owens describes the Macrons' lawsuit against her, Trump's call asking her to drop the topic, and links she draws between Epstein and French modeling agencies.
52:30
Honey traps and true crime
Owens discusses Red Sparrow-style spy tactics, the Caleb Flynn murder case, and why she thinks women are drawn to true crime.
1:03:20
Smear campaign and old college video
Owens rebuts online claims built on a hacked college journalism video, which she calls fabricated.
1:13:57
Dead internet, X bots, and megachurches
They discuss the decline of online dating and Google, bot-driven trends on X, and cash found in a wall at Joel Osteen's Lakewood Church.
1:23:02
Free speech in France and Xavier Poussard
Owens praises journalist Xavier Poussard and his book Becoming Brigitte, and clarifies what the lawsuit against her actually alleges.
1:31:18
Charlie Kirk case and the UVU review
Owens details findings of Utah Valley University's independent review about Turning Point USA's venue, ticketing, and ambulance decisions.
1:43:23
Tyler Robinson and alternative theories
Owens says she doubts Robinson's guilt, discusses the exploding-microphone theory, and questions the text-message confession and Lance Twiggs's role.
2:02:21
Owens's theory and criticism of TPUSA
Owens says the deep state killed Kirk over Israel, criticizes TPUSA and Erika Kirk, and discusses Brian Harpole's lawsuit and the upcoming trial.
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2:12:20
Peter Thiel and pregnancy talk
They discuss Peter Thiel's Antichrist lectures in Nashville, then close with pregnancy dreams and inducing labor with castor oil.

Key points

What was said, by whom, with the exact words. Timestamps jump to the moment.

Candace Owens
Owens argued that the effects of raising children publicly on the internet are unknown and said she keeps her kids offline.
“I don't think we know the effects of how kids that are being raised on the Internet”
Listen from 8:19 · Children's privacy on social media
Candace Owens
Owens argued that Britney Spears never needed a conservatorship and was forcibly drugged.
“she probably never needed to go into the conservatorship and then she never really came out of it because they were forced drugging her”
Listen from 10:08 · Britney Spears conservatorship
Candace Owens
Owens argued that people have a right to spend their own money irresponsibly without being placed under a conservatorship.
“Genuinely, if you make $10 million and you want to irresponsibly spend it all, that's actually kind of your right”
Listen from 17:11 · Britney Spears conservatorship
Candace Owens
Owens argued that debanking people over their opinions amounts to a social credit system, and said she moved her banking to local institutions.
“If you debank someone based on an opinion or a belief, that's effectively a credit score system”
Listen from 18:50 · Debanking
Theo Von
Von argued that moving money away from large entities into new or smaller systems is the only way to effect change.
“like you have to start to find new ways to put your money certain places. That's the only thing to affect change”
Listen from 21:14
Candace Owens
Owens said she distrusts Trump's plan to import Argentine beef and urged people to buy from American farmers.
“whatever is going on with that Argentina beef, something's not right”
Listen from 40:29
Candace Owens
Owens attributed the change she perceives in Trump's second term to the Epstein files.
“And then 2.0 just hit different. I think what happened was the Epstein files”
Listen from 42:35 · Jeffrey Epstein
Candace Owens
Owens claimed the Macron suit is the first time a sitting president has sued a media figure in another country.
“I think this is the first time in world history that a sitting president of a country has sued any media person in another country”
Listen from 45:40 · Macron v. Owens defamation lawsuit
Candace Owens
Owens recounted that Trump phoned her in February 2025 asking her to stop discussing Brigitte Macron and Sergio Gor.
“I got a phone call from him asking me to just stop talking about Brigitte and Sergio Gore”
Listen from 49:59 · Macron v. Owens defamation lawsuit
Candace Owens
Owens argued that Google now steers users toward predetermined answers rather than offering a range of results.
“Google is no longer giving you every answer. It's like telling you what the answer needs to be”
Listen from 1:15:15 · Dead internet theory
Candace Owens
Owens questioned the official account of cash found in a Lakewood Church wall and suggested possible insurance fraud.
“I think there might've been something going on inside of the church. And then you filed for insurance and you got money”
Listen from 1:22:05 · Lakewood Church
Candace Owens
Owens said the Macrons' lawsuit is not actually about her claim that Brigitte Macron was born male, contrary to press coverage.
“My lawsuit is not about whether or not Brigitte Macron is a man”
Listen from 1:27:55 · Macron v. Owens defamation lawsuit
Candace Owens
Owens said the official narrative fell apart for her when officials said Kirk's neck stopped a .30-06 bullet.
“the thing that everything fell apart instantly was when they said that his neck stopped a 30-06 bullet”
Listen from 1:32:00 · Assassination of Charlie Kirk
Candace Owens
Owens said the UVU review showed Turning Point USA insisted on the outdoor venue against the university's advice.
“Turning Point USA demanded that he be outside and the university said, we don't recommend this”
Listen from 1:33:49 · Utah Valley University independent review of the Charlie Kirk event
Candace Owens
Owens said TPUSA headquarters projected only 600 attendees and declined an ambulance on the event form.
“They told them there was only going to be 600 people, and they ticked no on needing an ambulance”
Listen from 1:38:04 · Utah Valley University independent review of the Charlie Kirk event
Candace Owens
Owens argued that TPUSA's refusal to participate in the independent review suggests the organization had something to hide.
“There is no reason in my mind that they would not participate in this unless they knew that their hands weren't clean”
Listen from 1:40:54 · Turning Point USA
Candace Owens
Owens said she does not believe Tyler Robinson was the shooter or that anyone shot Kirk from the Losee Center rooftop.
“He's not the person on the rooftop. Nobody shot Charlie from the rooftop of Losey is where I'm at”
Listen from 1:43:48 · Tyler Robinson preliminary hearing
Theo Von
Von speculated that AI is being pushed rapidly so that powerful interests can gain complete control over information.
“that's why AI is so important so fast right now because they need to be able to have a complete control over the information”
Listen from 1:46:20
Candace Owens
Owens said she finds the state's strongest evidence, Robinson's alleged text-message confession, unconvincing.
“The state's strongest piece of evidence is the text, the alleged text messages between him and his lover. And I find that not to be compelling”
Listen from 1:53:44 · Tyler Robinson preliminary hearing
Candace Owens
Owens suggested that Robinson's partner Lance Twiggs was more involved in the killing than officially acknowledged.
“I think he's the person who was much more involved in this”
Listen from 1:59:15 · Assassination of Charlie Kirk
Candace Owens
Owens gave her opinion that Kirk was killed by the 'deep state' because of his changing views on Israel.
“I think Charlie was taken out by the deep state, and it was because of his shifting views on Israel”
Listen from 2:02:33 · Assassination of Charlie Kirk
Candace Owens
Owens said Turning Point USA's following has collapsed within a year, and blamed the organization's own arrogance.
“No one could have imagined a scenario where this organization would collapse within a year”
Listen from 2:07:52 · Turning Point USA
Candace Owens
Owens predicted that material her show uncovered would be used by Robinson's defense at trial.
“I would strongly suspect that a lot of the things that we have presented and discovered will be used or come out naturally”
Listen from 2:11:44 · Tyler Robinson preliminary hearing

People

In the conversation

Theo VonAmerican stand-up comedian and host of the podcast This Past Weekend
Candace OwensConservative commentator and podcaster cited as a top-ranked show

Discussed

Charlie KirkAmerican conservative activist and podcast host assassinated in September 2025
Erika KirkAmerican figure Trump reportedly told to sue over a comedy sketch
Tyler RobinsonSuspect in the Charlie Kirk assassination
Lance TwiggsRobinson's partner and alleged recipient of his text messages
Brian HarpoleSecurity contractor for Charlie Kirk suing Owens for defamation
Shawn RyanFormer U.S. Navy SEAL and CIA contractor, host of the Shawn Ryan Show
Emmanuel MacronPresident of France behind the Louvre's New Renaissance project
Brigitte MacronWife of French President Emmanuel Macron, target of Owens's claims
Xavier PoussardFrench journalist and author of Becoming Brigitte
Donald TrumpPresident of the United States whose conduct of the Iran war is the episode's main subject
Miriam AdelsonIsrael-first megadonor said to own an Israeli newspaper that ran a hit piece on Vance
Pam BondiU.S. Attorney General reported fired during the episode
Jeffrey EpsteinFinancier and convicted sex offender
Ghislaine MaxwellDaughter of Robert Maxwell and associate of Jeffrey Epstein
Jean-Luc BrunelFrench modeling agent and Epstein associate
Britney SpearsAmerican pop singer cited by Tinashe as an influence
Lou TaylorBusiness manager linked to Britney Spears's conservatorship
Courtney LoveAmerican musician who Morissette said called her fake and later apologized
Benjamin NetanyahuPrime Minister of Israel
Anthony FauciFormer U.S. public health official criticized by Rogan
Joel OsteenPastor of Lakewood Church in Houston
Peter ThielInvestor and author of Zero to One
Baron ColemanFormer trial lawyer and talk radio host who runs the Real Baron Podcast, focused on the Charlie Kirk assassination
Tim DillonAmerican comedian and podcaster who appears in Busboys

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From the publisher

Candace Owens is a commentator and host known for her popular investigative show “Candace”. Candace joins Theo to talk about gearing up for kid #5, fending off lawsuits from world leaders, and why she’s not letting up on the investigation into Charlie Kirk’s murder. Candace Owens: https://www.instagram.com/realcandaceowens ------------------------------------------------- Tour Dates! https://theovon.com/tour New Merch: https://www.theovonstore.com ------------------------------------------------- Sponsored By: Celsius: Go to the Celsius Amazon store to check out all of their flavors. #CELSIUSBrandPartner @CelsiusOfficial https://amzn.to/3HbAtPJ Moonpay: Moonpay: https://moonpay.onelink.me/O2ia/t34p5kxg Better Help: This show is sponsored by BetterHelp. Sign up and get 10% off BetterHelp at http://BetterHelp.com/Theo Acorns: Head to http://acorns.com/investinall and give your money the best chance at growth! Perplexity AI: Ask anything at https://pplx.ai/theo ------------------------------------------------- Music: “Shine” by Bishop Gunn Bishop Gunn - Shine ------------------------------------------------ Submit your funny videos, TikToks, questions and topics you'd like to hear on the podcast to: tpwproducer@gmail.com Hit the Hotline: 985-664-9503 Video Hotline for Theo Upload here: https://www.theovon.com/fan-upload Mail stuff to: ATTN: TPW PO BOX 40137 Nashville TN 37204 ------------------------------------------------ Find Theo: Website: https://theovon.com Instagram: https://instagram.com/theovon Facebook: https://facebook.com/theovon Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/thispastweekend X: https://twitter.com/theovon YouTube: https://youtube.com/theovon Clips Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/TheoVonClips Shorts Channel: https://bit.ly/3ClUj8z ------------------------------------------------ Producer: Zach https://www.instagram.com/zachdpowers Producer: Trevyn https://www.instagram.com/trevyn.s/ Producer: Nick https://www.instagram.com/realnickdavis…

Summary, chapters and key points were generated from the episode transcript on November 1, 2026. Quotes are checked word for word against the transcript.

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