Israeli–Palestinian conflict
Event in News
Israeli–Palestinian conflict has come up in 5 episodes across 4 podcasts in TMT, including Pod Save America, The Ezra Klein Show, Modern Wisdom. 7 people have made recorded remarks about it.
What people said
Abdul El-SayedDemocratic Senate nominee in Michigan
El-Sayed proposes that Democrats separate protecting the Jewish community from criticism of Israel's government as a first principle.
“Number one, that the well-being of the Jewish community is different than good faith criticism of a foreign government”
The Ezra Klein Show: What Does Abdul El-Sayed Believe? (Sep 25, 2026) · Listen from 1:29:30
El-Sayed says he is agnostic between one-state and two-state outcomes as long as the process ensures rights for both peoples.
“Me as a US policymaker, I would be fine with any of those. It's about the process, not the outcome”
The Ezra Klein Show: What Does Abdul El-Sayed Believe? (Sep 25, 2026) · Listen from 1:20:13
El-Sayed characterizes Israel's decades-long occupation of Gaza and the West Bank as apartheid.
“They've been able to sustain a apartheid system, which is the only thing you can call sustained nearly six decade long occupation”
The Ezra Klein Show: What Does Abdul El-Sayed Believe? (Sep 25, 2026) · Listen from 1:14:48
El-Sayed says U.S. foreign policy should be to enforce international law evenly as first among equals.
“I just think we should be the first among equals to enforce international law”
The Ezra Klein Show: What Does Abdul El-Sayed Believe? (Sep 25, 2026) · Listen from 1:15:37
Cory BookerDemocratic senator from New Jersey
Booker says classified briefings show adversaries running large operations to inflame American social media divisions, including within the Democratic Party.
“I see our adversaries who have warehouses full of people who just go on to our social media and try to whip up the conflicts that we have between us”
Pod Save America: Taxing Cory Booker's Patience (Apr 5, 2026) · Listen from 27:12
Booker calls Netanyahu a horrible person who enabled October 7 and says he hopes Israelis vote him out and jail him.
“Benjamin Netanyahu is a horrible person who enabled October 7th and has failed to take accountability”
Pod Save America: Taxing Cory Booker's Patience (Apr 5, 2026) · Listen from 21:46
Booker argues Palestinian justice and Israeli security are mutually dependent and must be pursued together.
“we will never be able to achieve justice and independence for Palestinians without Israeli security. And there'll never be Israeli security until there's justice and independence for Palestinians”
Pod Save America: Taxing Cory Booker's Patience (Apr 5, 2026) · Listen from 20:26
Tommy VietorCo-host of Pod Save America and Pod Save the World who conducted the Josh Turek interview
Vietor argues the two-state solution is currently unrealistic due to settlement expansion and lost faith after October 7th.
“At this moment, the two-state solution is just not realistic in any way”
Pod Save America: Trump Works the FIFA Refs (Jul 7, 2026) · Listen from 46:57
Vietor suggests Rahm Emanuel's Tel Aviv speech is partly aimed at signaling to Israeli voters to move on from Netanyahu ahead of elections.
“Netanyahu has an election in October at the latest. I think he's going over there in part to kind of stir some shit up”
Pod Save America: Trump Works the FIFA Refs (Jul 7, 2026) · Listen from 42:26
Jon LovettCo-host of Pod Save America; diarization split of the same speaker during the economics segment
Lovett argues there is an unarticulated pro-Palestinian position that also affirms Israel's right to exist, but no politician is espousing it.
“Like there is a full-throated pro-Palestinian position that acknowledges Israel's right to exist and defend itself, that I think could reflect the values Abdul's talking about”
Pod Save America: Trump Works the FIFA Refs (Jul 7, 2026) · Listen from 43:33
Lovett argues that Biden and Harris failed to offer a progressive framework on Israel, leaving a vacuum in the Democratic debate.
“Joe Biden and Kamala Harris left such a massive hole, both in terms of the policy and any kind of larger framework or message”
Pod Save America: Trump Works the FIFA Refs (Jul 7, 2026) · Listen from 41:29
Ezra KleinNew York Times Opinion columnist and host of The Ezra Klein Show (diarization also merged one PopCast promo line into this label)
Klein predicts the next Democratic administration is unlikely to sell arms to Israel.
“I think that it is unlikely the next Democratic administration is going to be selling arms to Israel”
The Ezra Klein Show: What Does Abdul El-Sayed Believe? (Sep 25, 2026) · Listen from 1:18:38
Stan TatkinAmerican psychologist, couples therapist and author, founder of the PACT Institute
Tatkin uses the Israeli–Palestinian conflict as an analogy for how accumulated justice-seeking memory traps both couples and nations in loops.
“They cannot get out of this loop because there are generations upon generations of memory where everybody is getting their justice”
Modern Wisdom: Couples Therapist: Why Your Brain Turns Your Partner Into An Enemy - Stan Tatkin -#1146 (Sep 5, 2026) · Listen from 38:55
Joe RoganAmerican comedian and host of The Joe Rogan Experience
Rogan attributes American support for Israeli military action to campaign donors with lobbying influence over Trump.
“there's a lot of people that donated to the Trump campaign that have significant influence over him that lobby for Israel”
The Joe Rogan Experience: #2478 - Theo Von (Apr 2, 2026) · Listen from 1:00:21
Coverage over time
Podcasts
- Pod Save America · 2 episodes
- The Ezra Klein Show · 1 episode
- Modern Wisdom · 1 episode
- The Joe Rogan Experience · 1 episode
Episodes
What Does Abdul El-Sayed Believe?The Ezra Klein Show · Sep 25, 2026 · 1 h 34 min
Ezra Klein interviews Michigan Senate nominee Abdul El-Sayed about his immigrant upbringing, Medicare for All, Islamophobic attacks, and U.S. policy toward Israel and Palestinians.
Couples Therapist: Why Your Brain Turns Your Partner Into An Enemy - Stan Tatkin -#1146Modern Wisdom · Sep 5, 2026 · 1 h 9 min
Couples therapist Stan Tatkin tells Chris Williamson why attachment biology, threat memory and the absence of explicit agreements wreck long-term relationships.
Trump Works the FIFA RefsPod Save America · Jul 7, 2026 · 1 h 4 min
Jon Lovett and Tommy Vietor discuss Trump's FIFA intervention, the NATO summit, Graham Platner's allegations, the Michigan Senate primary, Israel politics, McConnell's health, and July 4th speeches.
Taxing Cory Booker's PatiencePod Save America · Apr 5, 2026 · 1 h 17 min
Senator Cory Booker joins Jon Lovett to debate his $75,000 standard deduction tax plan, the Iran war, AIPAC, and Pam Bondi's firing.
#2478 - Theo VonThe Joe Rogan Experience · Apr 2, 2026 · 2 h 47 min
Joe Rogan and Theo Von discuss AI companions, rising autism rates, government fraud, war in Iran, antidepressants, the Charlie Kirk shooting and Von's self-financed film.