Science of Identity Foundation

Rick Alan RossAmerican cult intervention specialist, founder of the Cult Education Institute and author of Cults Inside Out

• Ross says the Gabbard case shows the need for careful vetting of government officials.

  “we need to be very careful in the vetting process and the hiring process of people in our government”

  Mayim Bialik's Breakdown: Part Two: Cult Leaders Target You At Your Weakest. Never Confess This To Them | Rick Alan Ross (Sep 23, 2026) · Listen from 57:04

• Ross rejects the claim that criticism of Gabbard and Butler is an attack on Hinduism, saying Butler leads his own separate group.

  “Chris Butler is not a Hindu leader. He has his own specific group, the Science of Identity, that follows him and his dictates”

  Mayim Bialik's Breakdown: Part Two: Cult Leaders Target You At Your Weakest. Never Confess This To Them | Rick Alan Ross (Sep 23, 2026) · Listen from 43:38

• Ross questioned whether Gabbard would share national secrets with Chris Butler or let him influence her advice to the president.

  “will she or will she not share the secrets of our country with Chris Butler?”

  Mayim Bialik's Breakdown: Part Two: Cult Leaders Target You At Your Weakest. Never Confess This To Them | Rick Alan Ross (Sep 23, 2026) · Listen from 41:45

• Ross says he was very worried when Tulsi Gabbard was nominated to lead national intelligence because of her ties to the Science of Identity.

  “I was very worried when I first heard that Tulsa Gabbard was going to be nominated for the head of national intelligence”

  Mayim Bialik's Breakdown: Part Two: Cult Leaders Target You At Your Weakest. Never Confess This To Them | Rick Alan Ross (Sep 23, 2026) · Listen from 39:51