Organizational culture
Subject in Management
Organizational culture has come up in 14 episodes across 11 podcasts in TMT, including The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett, REAL AF with Andy Frisella, The Megyn Kelly Show. 12 people have made recorded remarks about it.
What people said
Andy FrisellaShow intro voiceover by host Andy Frisella
Frisella says top performers leave when leaders fail to deliver on a growing vision that has no ceiling.
“That's why killers leave. They know that they have a skill set. They understand that they can do better somewhere else”
REAL AF with Andy Frisella: 1034. REAL AF LIVE | CTI + Q&AF (Summer Smash '26) (Jun 6, 2026) · Listen from 1:27:50
Frisella argues good employees are built through standards and accountability rather than found.
“you're not going to quote unquote find good employees. That's not how it works. You're going to have to build them”
REAL AF with Andy Frisella: 1034. REAL AF LIVE | CTI + Q&AF (Summer Smash '26) (Jun 6, 2026) · Listen from 1:12:38
Frisella says out of thousands of employees over the years only about 100 were bad.
“We've had thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands of employees. And the number of bad ones out of thousands is probably like 100”
REAL AF with Andy Frisella: 1022. Q&AF: Fitting In While Growing, Finding Purpose In Success & Hiring Your First Employee (May 4, 2026) · Listen from 38:38
Frisella claims more people leave jobs for lack of contribution than for pay.
“Far more people leave their jobs because they don't feel like they're contributing than they do for pay”
REAL AF with Andy Frisella: 1022. Q&AF: Fitting In While Growing, Finding Purpose In Success & Hiring Your First Employee (May 4, 2026) · Listen from 37:23
Nick SabanFormer Alabama football head coach
Saban says the people side of coaching took longer to learn than the technical side, since coaching is teaching and teaching is inspiring learning.
“Coaching is teaching. Teaching is ability to inspire learning. Right, exactly. So that inspiring the learning part is the people part”
This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von: #689 - Nick Saban (Oct 6, 2026) · Listen from 27:17
Saban defines success as momentary and as consistency in performance rather than past achievement.
“success is not a continuum. It's momentary. And if there's anything that you've done in the past that you think is going to impact your the future,”
This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von: #689 - Nick Saban (Oct 6, 2026) · Listen from 15:03
Saban attributes Alabama's two losses after 19-game winning streaks to complacency.
“there was actually two times at Alabama we won 19 games in a row, and we lost the 20th game”
This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von: #689 - Nick Saban (Oct 6, 2026) · Listen from 13:43
Danny MeyerAmerican restaurateur, founder of Union Square Hospitality Group and Shake Shack
Meyer argues that compromising on skills or character in hires and promotions sends a message that stated values were not meant.
“Because every time you compromise on either one of those, you're sending a powerful message, maybe unwittingly, but you are sending a powerful message to everybody else”
The Learning Leader Show With Ryan Hawk: 708: Danny Meyer - How You Make People Feel: The Founder of Shake Shack & Union Square Hospitality Group on Culture as Soil, the 49/51 Hiring Formula, and Leading With Generosity (Sep 27, 2026) · Listen from 10:45
Meyer says the best way to scale culture is to be explicit about which behaviors are celebrated and which are not tolerated.
“be really, really clear with everyone in the company which behaviors we are going to celebrate and which behaviors we are not going to tolerate”
The Learning Leader Show With Ryan Hawk: 708: Danny Meyer - How You Make People Feel: The Founder of Shake Shack & Union Square Hospitality Group on Culture as Soil, the 49/51 Hiring Formula, and Leading With Generosity (Sep 27, 2026) · Listen from 9:37
Meyer argues that a growing business needs funding and leadership but also culture, which he likens to soil.
“It needs the soil. And the soil is the culture. The culture is... what the plant is growing in”
The Learning Leader Show With Ryan Hawk: 708: Danny Meyer - How You Make People Feel: The Founder of Shake Shack & Union Square Hospitality Group on Culture as Soil, the 49/51 Hiring Formula, and Leading With Generosity (Sep 27, 2026) · Listen from 9:37
Megyn KellyConservative broadcaster and podcaster
Kelly recounts that Bill O'Reilly warned her, when she was offered a Fox primetime show, that cable primetime was a snake pit.
“And he said, cable news primetime is a snake pit. and was really kind of warning me to watch my back”
The Megyn Kelly Show: The TRUTH About Jill's Treatment of Joe Biden, Bari Weiss' Leadership, and "Strangers" Accuracy, with Maureen Callahan | Ep. 1332 (Jun 4, 2026) · Listen from 1:14:51
Kelly argues that CBS leadership mismanaged its talent, as shown by internal drama becoming a days-long national story.
“Whenever the drama of inside your company blows up to the point where it is a multiple day story on every news outlet in the country, you've done something wrong”
The Megyn Kelly Show: The TRUTH About Jill's Treatment of Joe Biden, Bari Weiss' Leadership, and "Strangers" Accuracy, with Maureen Callahan | Ep. 1332 (Jun 4, 2026) · Listen from 57:03
Kelly said Roger Ailes rarely fired talent and instead eased demoted staff out with better titles and raises to avoid public feuds.
“He would give them a better title and he would usually give them a raise even though they were getting a demotion. And you know what that did? It kept them quiet”
The Megyn Kelly Show: Pratt and Hilton Closer to Runoff, and CBS News WAR Between Pelley and Bari Weiss, with Adam Carolla | Ep. 1331 (Jun 3, 2026) · Listen from 57:44
Daniel LubetzkyMexican-American billionaire entrepreneur, founder of KIND Snacks and PeaceWorks, and Shark Tank investor
Lubetzky defines kind leadership as honest problem-solving, in contrast to nice leadership that avoids discomfort.
“A nice leader doesn't cause problems. A kind leader solves problems. A nice leader is very polite. A kind leader is very honest”
Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha: Entrepreneurship and Self-Improvement Podcast: Daniel Lubetzky: He Almost Quit After 10 Years, Then Built KIND Snacks Into a Multibillion-Dollar Business | Entrepreneurship | E421 (Oct 19, 2026) · Listen from 57:51
Lubetzky describes KIND's egalitarian culture in which every full-time employee became eligible for stock options after six months.
“anybody after six months of working full-time at Kind was eligible to get stock options and you would vest over a period of time”
Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha: Entrepreneurship and Self-Improvement Podcast: Daniel Lubetzky: He Almost Quit After 10 Years, Then Built KIND Snacks Into a Multibillion-Dollar Business | Entrepreneurship | E421 (Oct 19, 2026) · Listen from 56:51
John R. MilesHost of the Passion Struck podcast and author of The Mattering Effect
Miles says leaders who call work strategically important but fill people's weeks with meetings send a contradictory signal.
“If you tell someone in the organization that their job is strategically important, but then consume their entire week in meetings, committees, status updates, and approvals”
Proven Podcast: The Mattering Effect: Success and Mattering Are Not the Same Thing - John R. Miles (Oct 10, 2026) · Listen from 53:13
Miles argues that leaders must set the mission and boundaries and then trust capable people, never becoming the bottleneck.
“the thing I learned very early on, and this has carried through my entire career, is the leader cannot become the bottleneck”
Proven Podcast: The Mattering Effect: Success and Mattering Are Not the Same Thing - John R. Miles (Oct 10, 2026) · Listen from 3:04
Natalie HolderEmployment attorney, workplace strategist, author of Exclusion, and former corporate people and culture executive
Holder reflects that she rejected the attention her viral culture-repair video received and should have embraced it.
“Had I been honest with myself, I would have leaned into it as opposed to reject it”
Notes from the Edge: How Do You Know When Work Becomes Trauma? Toxic Work Culture with Natalie Holder (Oct 2, 2026) · Listen from 47:47
Holder cites Gallup as finding that almost 70% of people leave jobs due to poor leadership, more than leave over pay.
“according to Gallup, almost 70% of people leave due to, you know, poor leadership”
Notes from the Edge: How Do You Know When Work Becomes Trauma? Toxic Work Culture with Natalie Holder (Oct 2, 2026) · Listen from 9:19
David RobinsonFormer OpenAI safety-team writer who led system card documentation; Rhodes Scholar, Yale Law graduate and founder of the civil rights nonprofit Upturn
Robinson says he left rather than push for reform internally because OpenAI moves too fast for the needed change to come from within.
“it is moving so fast that I did not think that the kind of change that I believe to be needed could be driven from within”
The Ezra Klein Show: ‘This Is Nuts.’ An OpenAI Insider Explains Why He Quit. (Oct 7, 2026) · Listen from 31:50
Dana WhitePresident and CEO of the UFC
White says his greatest strength has been choosing the right people to work with.
“If there's a superpower that I have, it has been picking the right people to surround myself with”
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett: Dana White: This Generation Thinks You Can Build A Business From Home, It's Impossible! (Oct 5, 2026) · Listen from 20:58
Adam NeumannIsraeli-American entrepreneur, co-founder and former CEO of WeWork, founder of the residential real estate company Flow
Neumann argues that leadership power comes from influence, not hierarchical control.
“Remember that power comes from influence, not control. If you think they need to do what you said because you're their boss, you've already lost”
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett: Adam Neumann: The Real Story Behind WeWork, A $4 Billion Cab Ride, And Surviving A $460 Million Debt (Sep 28, 2026) · Listen from 53:45
Rick Alan RossAmerican cult intervention specialist, founder of the Cult Education Institute and author of Cults Inside Out
Ross argues Steve Jobs, though charismatic and demanding, rewarded rather than exploited his employees, unlike a cult leader.
“He did not exploit them in the sense of a cult leader. People had stock options”
Mayim Bialik's Breakdown: Part Two: Cult Leaders Target You At Your Weakest. Never Confess This To Them | Rick Alan Ross (Sep 23, 2026) · Listen from 33:44
Maureen CallahanAmerican journalist, Daily Mail columnist and host of The Nerve podcast
Callahan argues workplace competition can intensify as one rises because there are fewer top positions.
“sometimes I think it can get more intense, you know, because now you're fighting for fewer positions in rarefied air”
The Megyn Kelly Show: The TRUTH About Jill's Treatment of Joe Biden, Bari Weiss' Leadership, and "Strangers" Accuracy, with Maureen Callahan | Ep. 1332 (Jun 4, 2026) · Listen from 1:18:58
Coverage over time
Podcasts
- The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett · 2 episodes
- REAL AF with Andy Frisella · 2 episodes
- The Megyn Kelly Show · 2 episodes
- Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha: Entrepreneurship and Self-Improvement Podcast · 1 episode
- Proven Podcast · 1 episode
- The Ezra Klein Show · 1 episode
- This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von · 1 episode
- Notes from the Edge · 1 episode
- The Learning Leader Show With Ryan Hawk · 1 episode
- Mayim Bialik's Breakdown · 1 episode
- The Curiosity Shop with Brené Brown and Adam Grant · 1 episode
Episodes
Daniel Lubetzky: He Almost Quit After 10 Years, Then Built KIND Snacks Into a Multibillion-Dollar Business | Entrepreneurship | E421Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha: Entrepreneurship and Self-Improvement Podcast · Oct 19, 2026 · 1 h 30 min
Hala Taha interviews KIND Snacks founder Daniel Lubetzky about a decade of PeaceWorks failures, building KIND, leadership, investors, Shark Tank, and peacebuilding in Gaza.
The Mattering Effect: Success and Mattering Are Not the Same Thing - John R. MilesProven Podcast · Oct 10, 2026 · 1 h 6 min
Charles Schwartz talks with former Navy officer and tech executive John R. Miles about leadership, trust, self-regulation, and the six signals of mattering at work.
‘This Is Nuts.’ An OpenAI Insider Explains Why He Quit.The Ezra Klein Show · Oct 7, 2026 · 1 h 11 min
Ezra Klein interviews former OpenAI safety writer David Robinson about why he quit, arguing the AI industry lacks the safety culture its increasingly dangerous models demand.
#689 - Nick SabanThis Past Weekend w/ Theo Von · Oct 6, 2026 · 1 h 24 min
Nick Saban talks with Theo Von about his marriage, perfectionism, coaching philosophy, retirement from Alabama, NIL-era recruiting, the College Football Playoff, and his ESPN docuseries.
Dana White: This Generation Thinks You Can Build A Business From Home, It's Impossible!The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett · Oct 5, 2026 · 1 h 28 min
UFC chief Dana White tells Steven Bartlett about his childhood, building the UFC, hiring 'killers', health turnaround, his estranged mother, risk-taking and his boxing ambitions.
How Do You Know When Work Becomes Trauma? Toxic Work Culture with Natalie HolderNotes from the Edge · Oct 2, 2026 · 50 min
Lisa Lacy talks with employment attorney Natalie Holder about workplace trauma, exclusion, affinity bias, and how to plan a deliberate career pivot.
Adam Neumann: The Real Story Behind WeWork, A $4 Billion Cab Ride, And Surviving A $460 Million DebtThe Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett · Sep 28, 2026 · 2 h 15 min
Adam Neumann tells Steven Bartlett about his traumatic childhood, WeWork's rise and collapse, SoftBank's investments, his $460 million debt crisis, and spiritual lessons behind Flow.
708: Danny Meyer - How You Make People Feel: The Founder of Shake Shack & Union Square Hospitality Group on Culture as Soil, the 49/51 Hiring Formula, and Leading With GenerosityThe Learning Leader Show With Ryan Hawk · Sep 27, 2026 · 54 min
Ryan Hawk interviews restaurateur Danny Meyer about enlightened hospitality, scaling culture, the 49/51 hiring formula, and how a hot dog cart became Shake Shack.
Part Two: Cult Leaders Target You At Your Weakest. Never Confess This To Them | Rick Alan RossMayim Bialik's Breakdown · Sep 23, 2026 · 59 min
Mayim Bialik and cult expert Rick Alan Ross discuss coercive control in relationships, workplaces and UFO groups, Tulsi Gabbard's ties to Chris Butler, and whether MAGA is a cult.
1034. REAL AF LIVE | CTI + Q&AF (Summer Smash '26)REAL AF with Andy Frisella · Jun 6, 2026 · 1 h 32 min
Andy Frisella and DJ discuss the Senate's rejection of the SAVE America Act, John Bolton's plea deal and Hunter Biden, then answer live audience questions on goals, leadership and business culture.