What Tania de Jong has said about Psychedelic therapy
6 quotes · 1 episode · Sep 18, 2026
Tania de Jong, Australian entrepreneur, singer and co-founder of Mind Medicine Australia, has been quoted on Psychedelic therapy 6 times in 1 episode of The Tim Ferriss Show, most recently on September 18, 2026. Each quote below is verbatim and links to the moment it was said.
In their words
De Jong reports that Australian clinics are seeing 60 to 80 percent remission rates, matching international trials.
“we are seeing 60 to 80% remission rates in Australia, which is replicating what we've seen in trials around the world”
The Tim Ferriss Show: #883: How to Legalize Medical Psychedelics in Your Country — Tania de Jong on The Playbook Behind Australia's World-First Breakthrough (Sep 18, 2026) · Listen from 44:42
- Prediction · due Sep 2029
De Jong conservatively predicts around 5,000 Australian patients could be treated over the next three years.
“So maybe it will get to 5,000 by then. This is me being conservative”
The Tim Ferriss Show: #883: How to Legalize Medical Psychedelics in Your Country — Tania de Jong on The Playbook Behind Australia's World-First Breakthrough (Sep 18, 2026) · Listen from 53:39
De Jong says the full course of treatment costs up to about A$25,000, mostly due to therapist time rather than the drug.
“So it's about a three to four month course that is costing maybe up to about $25,000 Australian dollars, about say $15,000 US dollars”
The Tim Ferriss Show: #883: How to Legalize Medical Psychedelics in Your Country — Tania de Jong on The Playbook Behind Australia's World-First Breakthrough (Sep 18, 2026) · Listen from 1:32:29
De Jong emphasizes that therapist time, not medicine, accounts for most of the treatment cost.
“it is really important to say that the majority of that cost is therapeutic time”
The Tim Ferriss Show: #883: How to Legalize Medical Psychedelics in Your Country — Tania de Jong on The Playbook Behind Australia's World-First Breakthrough (Sep 18, 2026) · Listen from 1:33:32
De Jong opposed funding research that replicated trials already conducted many times overseas, which brought conflict with some researchers.
“we were not fans of replicating trials that had already been undertaken at least five to 10 or more times in other markets overseas”
The Tim Ferriss Show: #883: How to Legalize Medical Psychedelics in Your Country — Tania de Jong on The Playbook Behind Australia's World-First Breakthrough (Sep 18, 2026) · Listen from 1:15:41
De Jong hopes nutrition and exercise will increasingly be part of post-treatment integration to prevent relapse.
“there's all sorts of things around nutrition and exercise that we're hoping will be more and more included as integration therapy post-treatment”
The Tim Ferriss Show: #883: How to Legalize Medical Psychedelics in Your Country — Tania de Jong on The Playbook Behind Australia's World-First Breakthrough (Sep 18, 2026) · Listen from 51:38
Predictions
- Prediction · due Sep 2029
De Jong conservatively predicts around 5,000 Australian patients could be treated over the next three years.
“So maybe it will get to 5,000 by then. This is me being conservative”
The Tim Ferriss Show: #883: How to Legalize Medical Psychedelics in Your Country — Tania de Jong on The Playbook Behind Australia's World-First Breakthrough (Sep 18, 2026) · Listen from 53:39 · Psychedelic therapy
Episodes
#883: How to Legalize Medical Psychedelics in Your Country — Tania de Jong on The Playbook Behind Australia's World-First BreakthroughThe Tim Ferriss Show · Sep 18, 2026 · 2 h 12 min
Tim Ferriss talks with Mind Medicine Australia co-founder Tania de Jong about how Australia became the first country to allow prescribing MDMA and psilocybin for psychiatric conditions.
Others on Psychedelic therapy
- Christopher Kerr · 1 quote
- Shaan Puri · 1 quote
- Chase Hughes · 1 quote
Tania de Jong on other topics
- Therapeutic Goods Administration · 3 quotes
- Mind Medicine Australia · 2 quotes
- Psilocybin therapy · 2 quotes