#2518 - Tim Dillon

Episode of The Joe Rogan Experience · June 24, 2026 · 2 h 45 min

Joe Rogan and comedian Tim Dillon discuss Los Angeles' decline, UK speech arrests and migration, AI, UFOs, DMT, the White House UFC card, Bari Weiss's CBS, Israel and the Iran war, and 2028 politics.

Summary

Joe Rogan hosted comedian Tim Dillon for a wide-ranging conversation that opened with cigarettes and American food culture before turning to the decline of Los Angeles. Dillon argued that California overtaxed and overregulated its film industry into leaving, and both men criticized Gavin Newsom's boosterism. They moved to the United Kingdom, where Rogan said free speech had been suppressed to an alarming degree, and discussed a rape gang inquiry report. Dillon argued that mass migration into Europe reflected a deliberate design by globally minded economic elites and that rapid demographic change strains fragile societies.

The pair discussed artificial intelligence and the concentration of power in tech companies, with Rogan describing the goal as building a digital god controlled by a few. Dillon questioned tech figures' embrace of Christianity, including Peter Thiel's Antichrist lectures, and praised JD Vance as the administration's main voice for restraint on the Iran war. Dillon also criticized corporate Pride marketing and American individualism, recounting a therapist's advice about skipping his cousin's wedding. Rogan described DMT research by Andrew Gallimore, his own psychedelic experiences, UFO disclosure rumors, the Book of Enoch, and a story about Jimmy Carter; they also examined reports of Iranian drone swarms and a CIA "quantum heartbeat" tool used to find a downed airman.

Later segments covered the Nancy Guthrie disappearance, a crypto sponsorship offer Dillon declined, and the White House UFC card, which Dillon called the culmination of the MAGA era after a fighter declared Michelle Obama a man. Dillon sharply criticized Bari Weiss's leadership of CBS News, the new CBS Evening News anchor, and the firing of Scott Pelley, whom Rogan noted had objected to a characterization of Renee Good's shooting that contradicted video. Dillon argued the Iran war served Israeli more than American interests and that Palantir-led data consolidation risked turning the U.S. into China. The episode closed with nostalgia for grittier New York, skepticism about Zohran Mamdani and Bernie Sanders, and Dillon's prediction that Vance would win the 2028 Republican nomination while an unknown, boring Democrat might win the presidency.

Chapters

0:11
Cigarettes and American excess
Rogan and Dillon swap smoking stories, discuss British smoking habits, and laugh at European World Cup fans encountering Buc-ee's.
5:26
The decline of Los Angeles
The pair discuss fleeing LA during fires and riots, the exodus of Hollywood production, Newsom's boosterism, and Giuliani's cleanup of New York.
13:08
UK speech arrests and European migration
They discuss arrests over social media posts in Britain, the grooming gang inquiry report, Dearborn, and Dillon's argument that mass migration is someone's design.
32:16
AI, housing, and tech power
Dillon links AI disruption to declining homeownership while Rogan warns about unprecedented tech power and the creation of a digital god, and they discuss tech figures embracing Christianity.
43:30
Technology, anxiety, and institutional thinking
They discuss how digitization and social media have raised anxiety, and Dillon criticizes corporate Pride marketing, institutionalist thinking, and Scientology defectors.
55:48
Armie Hammer and General Butt Naked
Talk of Armie Hammer's comeback leads Rogan to recount the story of Liberian warlord General Butt Naked.
1:01:56
Fragile societies and the American family
Dillon argues rapid demographic change destabilizes societies, calls the Iran war a non-victory, and contrasts family loyalty abroad with American individualism and therapy culture.
1:11:38
DMT, UFOs, and the Book of Enoch
Rogan describes extended DMT research, rumors about UFO disclosure to pastors, the Book of Enoch, and a story about Jimmy Carter weeping after a UFO briefing.
1:26:47
Drone swarms and the quantum heartbeat
They review reports of Iranian drone swarms, a CIA quantum magnetometry tool, the Nancy Guthrie case, and a suspicious crypto sponsorship offer.
1:42:12
The White House UFC card and Butler
Dillon calls the White House UFC event the end of the MAGA party, jokes about a Michelle Obama wrestling entrance, and they discuss the Butler shooting lawsuits.
1:50:53
Bari Weiss and CBS News
Dillon criticizes Weiss's leadership, the CBS Evening News anchor's emotional debut, and the firing of Scott Pelley over a disputed story about Renee Good.
2:10:24
Israel, Iran, and the 2028 outlook
Dillon questions donor influence on the Iran war, warns about Palantir and national debt, reminisces about old New York, and predicts 2028 nominees.

Key points

What was said, by whom, with the exact words. Timestamps jump to the moment.

Tim Dillon
Dillon says he has been sober from alcohol and drugs for 15 years.
“and I've been sober 15 years from alcohol and drugs. And I look at people that are really drunk”
Listen from 1:33
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Tim Dillon
Dillon argues California drove its film industry away through excessive taxes and regulation.
“They overtaxed and overregulated their biggest industry business. to other states and other countries”
Listen from 8:17
Joe Rogan
Rogan argues that free speech in England has been suppressed to an alarming degree without enough public outcry.
“In England, their freedom of speech has been suppressed to an alarming point where people are not freaking out nearly enough about it”
Listen from 14:10 · Freedom of speech in the United Kingdom
Tim Dillon
Dillon argues that mass migration into Western countries is a deliberate design rather than happenstance.
“But I think it is clearly someone's design. This isn't happenstance. None of this has to happen”
Listen from 25:33 · Immigration to Europe
Joe Rogan
Rogan argues that AI developers aim to build a digital god that will be controlled by a small group rather than humanity.
“The goal is to create literally a digital God. And it's going to be controlled by not us, not the collective human race”
Listen from 35:37 · Artificial intelligence
Tim Dillon
Dillon calls JD Vance the sanest voice in the administration on the Iran war.
“I think he's the sanest voice in that administration about the Iran war, for sure”
Listen from 39:32 · United States war with Iran
Tim Dillon
Dillon argues the Iran war cannot honestly be viewed as a victory.
“It's hard to look at this Iran war as a victory. It's almost impossible, unless you're completely dishonest”
Listen from 1:02:20 · United States war with Iran
Tim Dillon
Recounting his therapist's advice about his cousin's wedding, Dillon argues American therapy enables selfishness and erodes family.
“So therapy in our country has become a way to kind of enable like sick people to just become selfish psychopaths”
Listen from 1:07:57
Joe Rogan
Rogan states that DMT is produced naturally by the human body, including the brain and liver.
“DMT is produced by the human body. It's produced in the brain. It's produced in the liver”
Listen from 1:17:02 · N,N-Dimethyltryptamine
Tim Dillon
Dillon describes declining a crypto sponsorship after its secretive backers would only meet him in Dubai and then withdrew the offer.
“And then immediately once I requested that, they said, okay, they'll all meet you in Dubai and talk to you about the company”
Listen from 1:38:06
Tim Dillon
Dillon argues a fighter shouting that Michelle Obama is a man on the White House lawn marked the end point of the MAGA movement.
“and you're asked if you have anything to say and you scream, Michelle Obama's a man. That is the clock has struck midnight”
Listen from 1:44:25 · UFC White House event
Tim Dillon
Dillon contends Bari Weiss was installed at CBS News to destroy it rather than fix it.
“She was put there to destroy it. She wasn't put there to make it work”
Listen from 1:53:44 · CBS News
Joe Rogan
Rogan argues that a newsroom describing Renee Good as driving toward the officer would sacrifice credibility by contradicting verifiable video.
“If you were running a newsroom, that would be the last thing you would want to do is contradict something that's obviously verifiable”
Listen from 2:08:45 · 60 Minutes
Tim Dillon
Dillon says it is fair to ask whether major donors pushing the Iran war prioritize American or Israeli interests.
“Is the motive the strength and prosperity of America, or is it the strength and prosperity of Israel? That's a fair question”
Listen from 2:10:59 · Israel lobby in the United States
Tim Dillon
Dillon criticizes proposals for Palantir to merge government databases, warning the U.S. could become like China in fighting China.
“I would take the government a lot more seriously if they weren't potentially saying Palantir should merge all these different government databases”
Listen from 2:23:04 · Palantir Technologies
Joe Rogan
Rogan argues that despite current problems, people today are kinder and society safer than ever before.
“humans today are way better at being people, way kinder and nicer, despite all our problems, than we have ever been in the past”
Listen from 2:28:20
Tim Dillon Prediction · due Aug 2028
Dillon predicts JD Vance, not Marco Rubio, will win the 2028 Republican presidential nomination.
“But they have other ways to make money. So I do think Vance will get the nomination”
Listen from 2:35:27 · 2028 Republican Party presidential primaries
Tim Dillon Prediction · due Nov 2028
Dillon predicts the next president will be a little-known Democratic governor from a red or purple state.
“I think it's somebody that comes from a red state who's a Democrat governor, a purple state”
Listen from 2:36:07

People

In the conversation

Joe RoganAmerican comedian and host of The Joe Rogan Experience
Tim DillonAmerican comedian and podcaster who appears in Busboys

Discussed

Gavin NewsomGovernor of California, cited for his 2018 primary strategy
Rudy GiulianiFormer New York mayor and Trump's personal lawyer
Rupert LoweLeader of the Restore Britain party
Peter ThielInvestor and author of Zero to One
JD VanceVice President of the United States
Elon MuskEntrepreneur behind X, xAI and SpaceX, discussed in AI competition
Armie HammerAmerican actor attempting a career comeback
Joshua Milton BlahyiLiberian former warlord known as General Butt Naked, now a preacher
Andrew GallimoreNeurobiologist and DMT researcher who previously appeared on the show
Rick StrassmanPsychiatrist who conducted early FDA-approved DMT research
Jimmy CarterFormer U.S. president said to have been briefed on UFOs
Nancy Guthrie84-year-old mother of Savannah Guthrie who disappeared on January 31
Michelle ObamaFormer First Lady of the United States
Bari WeissEditor-in-chief of CBS News, criticized by Wagner over ratings
David EllisonParamount chief pursuing the acquisition of Warner Bros. Discovery
Scott PelleyCBS News correspondent for 60 Minutes
Renee GoodWoman killed in an ICE encounter in Minneapolis
Mark LevinConservative radio host who pressed for strikes on Iran
Marco RubioU.S. Secretary of State who defended the Iran campaign at a cabinet meeting
Zohran MamdaniNew York Democratic politician described by Pape as a left-wing parallel to Trump's rapid rise
Bernie SandersU.S. Senator from Vermont who discussed mail-in ballots before the 2020 election
Jon OssoffU.S. senator from Georgia cited as connecting corruption and economics
Donald TrumpPresident of the United States whose conduct of the Iran war is the episode's main subject

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From the publisher

Tim Dillon is a stand-up comic, actor, and host of “The Tim Dillon Show” podcast. His latest comedy special, “Tim Dillon: I’m Your Mother,” is available on Netflix.www.youtube.com/@TimDillonShowwww.patreon.com/thetimdillonshowhttps://punchup.live/TimDillonwww.timdilloncomedy.com Perplexity: Download the app or ask Perplexity anything at https://pplx.ai/rogan. 50% off your first box at https://www.thefarmersdog.com/rogan! Switch today at https://Visible.com for just 25/mo. Or Save $10 on your first month of Visible+ Pro with code ROGAN. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Summary, chapters and key points were generated from the episode transcript on September 29, 2026. Quotes are checked word for word against the transcript.

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