Unidentified flying objects and government disclosure
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Unidentified flying objects and government disclosure has come up in 27 episodes across 9 podcasts in TMT, including The Joe Rogan Experience, REAL AF with Andy Frisella, Danny Jones Podcast. 12 people have made recorded remarks about it.
What people said
Joe RoganAmerican comedian and host of The Joe Rogan Experience
Rogan argues it is wrong for unelected officials and contractors to hold UAP information the public lacks.
“There shouldn't be a group of unelected bureaucrats and defense contractors that have access to this stuff and the general public doesn't”
The Joe Rogan Experience: #2560 - David Grusch (Sep 30, 2026) · Listen from 1:12:44
Rogan says Stephen Miller told him at the White House UFC event that UFO information would come out.
“at the UFC event at the White House, and he told me that it's going to come out”
The Joe Rogan Experience: #2560 - David Grusch (Sep 30, 2026) · Listen from 28:11
Rogan believes much of what people report as UAPs is secret U.S. technology, while not ruling out something else.
“I think there's a giant chunk of the shit that people are seeing that's ours”
The Joe Rogan Experience: #2517 - Taylor Sheridan (Jun 23, 2026) · Listen from 40:02
Rogan reasons that any craft able to travel from another planet could reach the ocean depths and set up a base there.
“If he can do that, for sure something that can come here from another planet can also go down there and most likely set up a base”
The Joe Rogan Experience: #2507 - Harland Williams (May 29, 2026) · Listen from 23:20
Tim BurchettU.S. Representative who commented on classified UFO briefings
Burchett frames the issue as a budget question about what the government is spending tens of millions on.
“It's not about Little Green Man. It's not about flying saucers. It's what are we spending this money on if they say they don't exist?”
The Joe Rogan Experience: #2495 - Tim Burchett (May 7, 2026) · Listen from 2:21:13
Burchett rejects the rationale that disclosure would harm society, saying the public should decide.
“I don't doubt what he's saying. I know all those guys”
The Joe Rogan Experience: #2495 - Tim Burchett (May 7, 2026) · Listen from 2:25:44
Burchett says a federal employee told him the president is on a need-to-know basis regarding UFO information.
“he said, the president's on a need-to-know basis. Now, that's a federal employee saying that he or she has— information that the president is not allowed to see”
The Joe Rogan Experience: #2495 - Tim Burchett (May 7, 2026) · Listen from 2:23:41
Burchett suggests disappearances of scientists around the time of disclosure efforts serve as warnings to others, likening it to roughing up busboys.
“you rough up a few of the busboys, and that sends a quick dadgum message that you need to shut your mouth”
The Joe Rogan Experience: #2495 - Tim Burchett (May 7, 2026) · Listen from 18:38
David GruschFormer intelligence official whose House Oversight testimony Gaetz cites
Grusch advises the administration to make a threshold disclosure at least six months before the next election.
“if I were advising the president and if the team's listening, I would do it at least six months before the election”
The Joe Rogan Experience: #2560 - David Grusch (Sep 30, 2026) · Listen from 2:26:32
Grusch supports an amnesty process modeled on South Africa's Truth and Reconciliation Commission.
“I believe in amnesty, but I think we need to do it like Truth and Reconciliation Commission, which was in post-apartheid South Africa in the 90s”
The Joe Rogan Experience: #2560 - David Grusch (Sep 30, 2026) · Listen from 50:10
Grusch argues the main reason against disclosure was the government's potential legal liability to defense contractors.
“the government would be liable for who fucking knows, billions of dollars worth of monies that they spent on this to these contractor partners”
The Joe Rogan Experience: #2560 - David Grusch (Sep 30, 2026) · Listen from 47:16
- Prediction · due Jan 2029
Grusch predicts that everything he testified about will be officially released before Trump's term ends.
“So I believe before Trump's term ends that it's all going to come out”
The Joe Rogan Experience: #2560 - David Grusch (Sep 30, 2026) · Listen from 23:39
Jimmy ChurchAmerican radio host of Fade to Black and former Coast to Coast AM host, focused on UFOs and the paranormal
Church says he would ask extraterrestrials how their civilization avoided self-destruction rather than asking for technology.
“I would ask ET, how did you guys survive? How did you guys not kill each other?”
Digital Social Hour: The Antarctica Mystery Nobody Can Explain... | Jimmy Church | DSH #2054 (Jul 7, 2026) · Listen from 34:21
Church contends that legacy UFO programs outlast presidents, who may know little about them.
“And a president can come and go, but the programs still continue. And just maybe... President doesn't know about it or know a lot about it”
Digital Social Hour: The Antarctica Mystery Nobody Can Explain... | Jimmy Church | DSH #2054 (Jul 7, 2026) · Listen from 19:10
Church argues knowledge of extraterrestrial life is a fundamental right that national security cannot justify withholding, though he accepts secrecy about technology.
“Life in the universe, that's a fundamental right as an earthling. You want to keep dolphins secret from me in the ocean?”
Digital Social Hour: The Antarctica Mystery Nobody Can Explain... | Jimmy Church | DSH #2054 (Jul 7, 2026) · Listen from 15:47
Church urges the community to wait and see whether the promised document release contains substance or redactions.
“If you get excited and you jump in the deep end of the pool, there's some disappointment there. So do we just ride this out? Is it going to be a bunch of redacted stuff?”
Digital Social Hour: The Antarctica Mystery Nobody Can Explain... | Jimmy Church | DSH #2054 (Jul 7, 2026) · Listen from 8:51
Bob LazarAmerican scientist and businessman who claims to have worked on recovered extraterrestrial craft at a site called S4 near Area 51
Lazar is skeptical of the many reported crash-retrieval stories, doubting advanced craft would crash frequently.
“I don't think there can be that many crashes. Do you?”
The Joe Rogan Experience: #2479 - Bob Lazar & Luigi Vendittelli (Apr 3, 2026) · Listen from 1:33:18
Lazar says that if he were Iran he would enrich uranium to weapons grade, and that acquiring a delivery system matters more than enrichment.
“if I was Iran, I would enrich to 80 or 90 percent because that's where you can make a weapon”
The Joe Rogan Experience: #2479 - Bob Lazar & Luigi Vendittelli (Apr 3, 2026) · Listen from 1:11:41
Lazar says his biggest unanswered question is why so much of the phenomenon is associated with the ocean.
“So, yeah, number one is what's the deal with the ocean? That's probably the number one question”
The Joe Rogan Experience: #2479 - Bob Lazar & Luigi Vendittelli (Apr 3, 2026) · Listen from 52:22
Lazar says he increasingly thinks going public was his mistake.
“Yeah, I don't know, but I'm increasingly thinking I'm the one that made the mistake”
The Joe Rogan Experience: #2479 - Bob Lazar & Luigi Vendittelli (Apr 3, 2026) · Listen from 36:53
Sean WebbAuthor of the Mind Hacking Happiness series and NHI Connected Mind, emotional intelligence and AI algorithm developer
Webb believes NHI will bypass governments and contact individuals, claiming governments only want to weaponize its technology.
“I think that NHI is gonna start reaching out to more individuals to say, we've tried interfacing with your government and it's not really working out so well”
Mayim Bialik's Breakdown: Part Two: He Called Out to Nonhuman Intelligence at Lake Hartwell. Three Minutes Later, Navy SEALs Watched Two Objects Perform a Maneuver No Terrestrial Craft Could Make | Sean Webb (Oct 7, 2026) · Listen from 29:59
Webb says government agencies shifted from discrediting Chris Bledsoe to courting him because orbs kept appearing for him.
“Like they had to change their whole strategy because the orbs keep showing up for him”
Mayim Bialik's Breakdown: Part Two: He Called Out to Nonhuman Intelligence at Lake Hartwell. Three Minutes Later, Navy SEALs Watched Two Objects Perform a Maneuver No Terrestrial Craft Could Make | Sean Webb (Oct 7, 2026) · Listen from 27:33
Webb predicts nonhuman intelligence will increasingly connect with human consciousness because those in power withhold information.
“I think there's going to be a pattern of NHI connecting down into human consciousness much more frequently than it has in the past”
Mayim Bialik's Breakdown: Part Two: He Called Out to Nonhuman Intelligence at Lake Hartwell. Three Minutes Later, Navy SEALs Watched Two Objects Perform a Maneuver No Terrestrial Craft Could Make | Sean Webb (Oct 7, 2026) · Listen from 27:54
Walter BosleyFormer FBI counterintelligence specialist and Air Force OSI agent, author and researcher of historical occult mysteries
Bosley recommends that people seeking the truth about UFOs research privately for five years without publicizing it.
“Go out and do your own research on UFOs. Five years, don't say a word. Don't write a book about it. Don't go on podcasts”
Danny Jones Podcast: #434 - FBI Occult Expert: Breakaway Civilizations, Antarctica & 1800's Airships | Walter Bosley (Sep 25, 2026) · Listen from 1:29:40
Bosley says he assessed the 2004 Tic Tac as a technology test conducted on unwitting pilots.
“my first assessment was, oh, that's some type of technology that was being tested”
Danny Jones Podcast: #434 - FBI Occult Expert: Breakaway Civilizations, Antarctica & 1800's Airships | Walter Bosley (Sep 25, 2026) · Listen from 1:16:24
Bosley believes the NSA, not Rick Doty or OSI, drove Paul Bennewitz to breakdown.
“I don't demonize Rick Doty the way a lot of people do, because it is my opinion that the NSA drove Paul Benowitz crazy”
Danny Jones Podcast: #434 - FBI Occult Expert: Breakaway Civilizations, Antarctica & 1800's Airships | Walter Bosley (Sep 25, 2026) · Listen from 1:07:01
Chad RippergerAmerican Catholic priest and exorcist, author on demonic influence
Ripperger cited top astrophysicists as holding that the energy requirements for interstellar travel make visitation unreasonable to presume.
“the energy requirements to be able to travel, even from one of our closest neighbors, is so extreme that it's not reasonable to presume that it's even possible”
The Shawn Ryan Show: #324 Father Ripperger - The Signs of Diabolical Influence in America (Jul 23, 2026) · Listen from 10:51
Ripperger argued that seeing something unexplained in the sky does not justify concluding it comes from another planet, violating the principle of evidence.
“just because you see something you can't explain doesn't mean there's people in other planets that's a logical leap”
The Shawn Ryan Show: #324 Father Ripperger - The Signs of Diabolical Influence in America (Jul 23, 2026) · Listen from 9:45
Ripperger suspected that many in government are anti-Christian and seek to replace Christianity with an alternative account of human origins.
“My suspicion is that a lot of the people that are in government are actually anti-Christian, and so part of their way, what their goal is, is to supplant Christianity”
The Shawn Ryan Show: #324 Father Ripperger - The Signs of Diabolical Influence in America (Jul 23, 2026) · Listen from 7:58
JD VanceVice President of the United States
Vance is skeptical that the government holds alien remains, arguing such a secret would inevitably leak.
“if we have literal space alien remains in the custody of the United States government, there is no way that that wouldn't leak out in some way”
The Joe Rogan Experience: #2526 - JD Vance (Jul 15, 2026) · Listen from 2:09:10
Vance argues that human-like beings with vast powers that torment people fit a long historical precedent of being called demons.
“You can call it an alien if you want, but I think there's a lot of historical precedent to call that a demon”
The Joe Rogan Experience: #2526 - JD Vance (Jul 15, 2026) · Listen from 1:55:48
Vance says he has promised for a year and a half to investigate UFOs but has not yet had time.
“I have said that I am going to like – I'm going to look into the UFO thing. And I've been saying that for a year and a half”
The Joe Rogan Experience: #2526 - JD Vance (Jul 15, 2026) · Listen from 1:51:46
Connor LeahyAI researcher, co-founder of EleutherAI and US Executive Director of the advocacy group Control AI
Leahy asserts one of the Navy Tic-Tac videos was confirmed to show a swan misjudged by distance sensors.
“Like again, I'm sure they saw something, but like one of the Tic-Tac videos is confirmed was a swan”
Danny Jones Podcast: #432 - "Terrifying New Behavior" Real Reason AI CEOs Are Building Bunkers | Connor Leahy (Sep 18, 2026) · Listen from 2:01:22
Leahy accepts that people see strange things in the sky but rejects the alien explanation.
“My problem is aliens. They're not aliens. There are not aliens up there”
Danny Jones Podcast: #432 - "Terrifying New Behavior" Real Reason AI CEOs Are Building Bunkers | Connor Leahy (Sep 18, 2026) · Listen from 2:00:37
Kareem RahmaEgyptian-born, New York-based comedian, artist and media entrepreneur; host of Subway Takes and Keep the Meter Running
Rahma suggests the CIA has historically used films to build public support, such as for Middle East wars.
“I think that the CIA has been known to use, like, movies to, like, promote, like, oh, we're going to war in the Middle East”
SmartLess: "Kareem Rahma" (May 11, 2026) · Listen from 12:54
Rahma argues that an official confirmation of alien visitation would destroy society.
“I think the impact on society, I think it would destroy society”
SmartLess: "Kareem Rahma" (May 11, 2026) · Listen from 10:55
LL Cool JGrammy-winning American rapper and actor, star of NCIS: New York
LL Cool J says that if he had to bet, he would say Earth is being visited by others.
“I think it's high probability. If I was going to bet, I would say yes”
The Joe Rogan Experience: #2561 - LL Cool J (Oct 6, 2026) · Listen from 2:04:38
Predictions
- Prediction · due Jan 2029David Grusch
Grusch predicts that everything he testified about will be officially released before Trump's term ends.
“So I believe before Trump's term ends that it's all going to come out”
The Joe Rogan Experience: #2560 - David Grusch (Sep 30, 2026) · Listen from 23:39 · Unidentified flying objects and government disclosure
- Didn’t happenJamie Vernon
Jamie notes that the Pentagon is supposed to hand over the requested UAP clips by April 14.
“It's supposed to hand over the clips by April 14th. That's next week”
The Joe Rogan Experience: #2481 - Duncan Trussell (Apr 9, 2026) · Listen from 2:37:17 · Unidentified flying objects and government disclosure
Rep. Anna Paulina Luna's March 31, 2026 letter asked the Pentagon to deliver 46 UAP video files by April 14, 2026. Luna said the Department of War missed that deadline and threatened a subpoena, and the Pentagon's only reply was that AARO was working to consolidate records. Public UAP releases didn't begin until the PURSUE site launched on May 8, 2026.
Sources: Pentagon missed Rep. Luna's deadline for 46 UAP videos release · Pentagon issues update as pressure grows over UFO videos - Newsweek · Pentagon Update as UFO Deadline Passes: 'How Convenient' - Newsweek · A New Batch of Pentagon UAP Videos Will Soon Be Released—Here's What to Expect - The Debrief
Checked Sep 30, 2026
- Prediction · due Dec 2028Steve
Steve predicts alien disclosure will happen by 2028 at the latest.
“you say within 2027 2028 i i yeah i think by by 28 at the latest”
Ctrl-Alt-Reset: Episode 2: Aliens - What If We're Not Alone? (May 3, 2025) · Listen from 1:08:07 · Unidentified flying objects and government disclosure
Coverage over time
Podcasts
- The Joe Rogan Experience · 14 episodes
- REAL AF with Andy Frisella · 2 episodes
- Danny Jones Podcast · 2 episodes
- The Shawn Ryan Show · 2 episodes
- Digital Social Hour · 2 episodes
- Ctrl-Alt-Reset · 2 episodes
- Mayim Bialik's Breakdown · 1 episode
- SmartLess · 1 episode
- Pardon My Take · 1 episode
Episodes
Part Two: He Called Out to Nonhuman Intelligence at Lake Hartwell. Three Minutes Later, Navy SEALs Watched Two Objects Perform a Maneuver No Terrestrial Craft Could Make | Sean WebbMayim Bialik's Breakdown · Oct 7, 2026 · 52 min
Sean Webb tells Mayim Bialik and Jonathan Cohen about receiving information from nonhuman intelligence, AI emotions and alignment, and Jesus and quantum mechanics.
#2561 - LL Cool JThe Joe Rogan Experience · Oct 6, 2026 · 2 h 38 min
Joe Rogan and LL Cool J discuss the birth of hip-hop and Def Jam, discipline and mastery, martial arts, lost civilizations, time travel and artificial intelligence.
#2560 - David GruschThe Joe Rogan Experience · Sep 30, 2026 · 2 h 36 min
Former intelligence officer David Grusch tells Joe Rogan about alleged retaliation against him, recovered non-human craft and beings, and expected UAP disclosure under Trump.
1064. Andy & DJ CTI: Iran Terror Plot Fears, Nor'easter Slams East Coast & Rising NASCAR Star AttackedREAL AF with Andy Frisella · Sep 29, 2026 · 1 h 25 min
Andy Frisella and DJ discuss a foiled suspected Iranian plot at RAF Fairford, Andrew Bailey's FBI resignation, voter demoralization, a Nor'easter, sports fights and a pulled GoFundMe.
#434 - FBI Occult Expert: Breakaway Civilizations, Antarctica & 1800's Airships | Walter BosleyDanny Jones Podcast · Sep 25, 2026 · 3 h 15 min
Former FBI counterintelligence agent Walter Bosley tells Danny Jones about 19th-century airships, the Nazi Bell, remote viewing, Operation Paperclip, Disneyland's carousel, and occult murders.
#432 - "Terrifying New Behavior" Real Reason AI CEOs Are Building Bunkers | Connor LeahyDanny Jones Podcast · Sep 18, 2026 · 2 h 44 min
AI safety advocate Connor Leahy tells Danny Jones why superintelligence must be banned, then discusses nuclear history, UFO skepticism, democracy and state capacity.
#324 Father Ripperger - The Signs of Diabolical Influence in AmericaThe Shawn Ryan Show · Jul 23, 2026 · 2 h 46 min
Exorcist Father Chad Ripperger tells Shawn Ryan about UFO disclosure, the angelic hierarchy and fall, spiritual warfare, guardian angels, prayer, heaven, and divine mercy.
#2526 - JD VanceThe Joe Rogan Experience · Jul 15, 2026 · 2 h 60 min
Vice President JD Vance joins Joe Rogan to discuss the UFC White House event, election integrity, religion in schools, the Iran war, Epstein files, UFOs, socialism, and labor.
The Antarctica Mystery Nobody Can Explain... | Jimmy Church | DSH #2054Digital Social Hour · Jul 7, 2026 · 50 min
Radio host Jimmy Church tells Sean Kelly about UFO disclosure, Obama's alien remarks, Antarctica, surveillance via apps, AI, social media, and internet-collapse preparedness.
#318 Candace Owens - The Most Sued Woman in American MediaThe Shawn Ryan Show · Jul 2, 2026 · 4 h 47 min
Shawn Ryan interviews Candace Owens about her life story, her theories on Charlie Kirk's assassination, her lawsuits, the Daily Wire, Israel, Trump, and her Catholic faith.