The Robinson-Twiggs DNA Evidence, and Assassination Culture, with Jack Posobiec, Sean Davis, and Sohrab Ahmari | Ep. 1355
Episode of The Megyn Kelly Show · July 8, 2026 · 1 h 43 min
Megyn Kelly reviews evidence from Tyler Robinson's preliminary hearing with Jack Posobiec, then discusses political violence, Graham Platner's collapse, and Iran with Sean Davis and Sohrab Ahmari.
Summary
Megyn Kelly opened by walking through surveillance video shown at the third day of Tyler Robinson's preliminary hearing in Provo, Utah, including testimony from Agent David Hull tracing the defendant's alleged four trips to Utah Valley University on September 10, 2025, his lunch at Chick-fil-A, his apparent limp from a concealed rifle, and his movements on the Losey building roof before the shot that killed Charlie Kirk.
Jack Posobiec described the small, heavily secured courtroom where Erika Kirk and Kirk's parents sat near Robinson's family, said he was angered to see Robinson laughing with counsel, and argued the prosecution was methodically building a strong, multilayered case. He and Kelly discussed DNA findings showing Robinson as the major and Lance Twiggs as the minor contributor on the towel and screwdriver, a YouTube reconstruction of how the disassembled rifle could be carried, and how easily the roof could be accessed. Kelly then examined Brian Harpool's claim that the UVU police chief had assured Turning Point security the roof was covered, arguing security teams must nonetheless verify coverage.
With Sean Davis and Sohrab Ahmari, Kelly discussed what they called assassination culture targeting conservatives; Davis described an epidemic of transgender terroristic violence and urged a crackdown on Antifa, while Ahmari urged focus on that profile rather than conspiracy theories. On Graham Platner's expected exit from Maine's Senate race, Ahmari said the totality of red flags made him unsustainable while criticizing a culture of hard-to-refute accusations; Davis blamed poor judgment all around and predicted Susan Collins would win regardless. On Trump declaring the Iran ceasefire over, Davis argued Iran could not escalate much and that the Strait of Hormuz was largely Europe's problem, and Ahmari said Iran was overplaying its hand but a return to full war was unlikely. The episode closed with criticism of Sunny Hostin's Fourth of July remarks on The View.
Chapters
- 1:08
Surveillance timeline of Robinson on campus
Kelly plays hearing testimony tracing the alleged movements of Tyler Robinson at UVU on the day of Charlie Kirk's assassination.
- 15:45
Inside the courtroom with Jack Posobiec
Posobiec describes security, the small gallery with both families, and Robinson laughing with his lawyers.
- 31:07
How the evidence is being built
Posobiec explains the prosecution's methodical presentation and the corroborating value of purchases, phone data, and video.
- 36:38
DNA on the towel and screwdriver
Kelly and Posobiec clarify testimony that Robinson was the major and Twiggs the minor DNA contributor.
- 41:58
How the rifle was carried and roof access
They discuss a reconstruction of the disassembled rifle and footage showing how easily the roof could be reached.
- 51:53
The rooftop security failure
Kelly examines Brian Harpool's account that the UVU police chief said the roof was covered and questions the security team's reliance on it.
- 1:01:07
Assassination culture and the left
Davis and Ahmari discuss threats to conservatives, trans-linked violence, and conspiracy theories about Kirk's death.
- 1:14:54
Graham Platner's implosion
The panel debates the allegations against Platner, the evidentiary culture around them, and the Maine Senate race.
- 1:35:13
Iran ceasefire collapse
After a Trump clip, the panel assesses escalation risk and whether the Strait of Hormuz is Europe's problem.
- 1:41:51
Sunny Hostin's Fourth of July remarks
Kelly and Davis mock Hostin's comments on The View about the American flag.
Key points
What was said, by whom, with the exact words. Timestamps jump to the moment.
- Jack Posobiec
Posobiec recounts being angered by seeing Robinson laugh with counsel while Kirk's widow and mother were in tears.
“I got pretty angry when I saw that. I'll just say that. It didn't sit well with me”
- Jack Posobiec
Posobiec argues that the prosecution is methodically building a very strong case against Tyler Robinson.
“they're building their case and they are building the scaffolding of a very very strong case against tyler robinson”
Linked moment · 32:59Skip to 32:59 using a listen link in the info box.
Jack PosobiecPosobiec contends there is considerably more evidence against Robinson than there was against Bryan Kohberger.
“It seems like there's a lot more evidence in this case than there was against Koberger because there you didn't have all the video”
- Megyn Kelly
Kelly says reports that Twiggs's DNA predominated on the towel and screwdriver were misinformation not supported by the testimony.
“people were running with a report that it was predominantly Lance Twigg's DNA on this towel and this screwdriver”
- Jack Posobiec
Posobiec suggests that Twiggs's minor DNA share on the towel and screwdriver is unsurprising since the two were roommates sharing household items.
“they were roommates, had towels that had shared DNA from touch DNA or just towels that are in the same bathroom, that's something that's pretty common, I think”
- Jack Posobiec
Posobiec endorses the theory that the rifle was carried in two pieces and reassembled quickly on the roof with the screwdriver.
“then assembles the gun. So puts the two pieces back together of the rifle, uses the screwdriver, and it's very quick, kind of like field stripping”
- Jack Posobiec
Posobiec, having walked the site, says the sniper position was small, interconnected, and easy to reach.
“So the idea that it would be hard to get up there is, you know, it's just not true”
- Megyn Kelly
Kelly argues that Kirk's security team should have verified roof coverage rather than relying on the UVU police chief's assurance.
“you make sure when you're the one getting paid to protect a principal, it's your job to make sure everything is covered and you follow up”
- Sean Davis
Davis argues that the threat of assassination falls almost exclusively on conservatives and Christians.
“This seems to be a threat that is completely isolated to those of us on the right”
Listen from 1:03:13 · Political violence in the United States
- Sohrab Ahmari
Ahmari argues the right should focus on the profile of trans-involved, drug-using radicals rather than conspiracy theories.
“a combination of marijuana use sort of strange sexual attractions and ideology. And so I think that's a more productive area for the right to talk about”
Listen from 1:07:28 · Political violence in the United States
- Sean Davis
Davis contends that Kirk's assassination fits an epidemic of transgender-linked terrorist violence rather than foreign conspiracy theories.
“It's that we have an utter epidemic of transgender terroristic violence in this country”
Listen from 1:10:48 · Political violence in the United States
- Sean Davis
Davis calls for aggressive government action against Antifa, which he describes as a terrorist movement.
“we have not seen Antifa be dragged from their homes, their bank accounts raided, their assets frozen and liquidated, because this is a terrorist movement”
Listen from 1:10:56 · Political violence in the United States
- Megyn Kelly
Kelly says she is open to other theories but that the evidence Robinson pulled the trigger is overwhelming.
“today's task is to figure out whether tyler robinson pulled the trigger that is today's task and the evidence that he did is overwhelming”
Listen from 1:13:14 · Conspiracy theories in the United States
- Sohrab Ahmari
Ahmari says the accumulation of red flags makes Graham Platner's candidacy unsustainable.
“because there are so many other character red flags and this is the United States Senate, you know, I think I think his candidacy becomes unsustainable”
Listen from 1:17:37 · 2026 United States Senate election in Maine
- Sohrab Ahmari
Ahmari argues that allegations capable of ruining a life should meet a high evidentiary standard.
“when you're talking about an allegation that can not only derail someone's campaign, but essentially ruin their life, I think the evidentiary standard has to be high”
Listen from 1:17:37 · 2026 United States Senate election in Maine
- Sean Davis
Davis argues the Platner scandal reflects poor judgment by everyone involved and promotes marriage as the proper context for sex.
“we actually have this amazing institution in America. I call it marriage”
Listen from 1:23:14 · 2026 United States Senate election in Maine
- Sean DavisPrediction · due Nov 2026
Davis predicts Susan Collins will win the Maine Senate race regardless of whom Democrats nominate.
“It doesn't matter what you're going to do. She's going to win anyway”
Listen from 1:27:06 · 2026 United States Senate election in Maine
- Sohrab Ahmari
Ahmari argues Platner should have major say in choosing his replacement because he won the primary overwhelmingly.
“Graham Plattner should be allowed kind of pretty exclusive kingmaking authority because he won so overwhelmingly in the primary”
Listen from 1:29:03 · 2026 United States Senate election in Maine
- Sean Davis
Davis argues the U.S. is not on a permanent escalation ladder because Iran cannot escalate beyond minor attacks.
“I don't think we are on this permanent escalation ladder is the foreign policy dorks might say, because Iran can't really escalate beyond taking potshots”
- Sean Davis
Davis argues the Strait of Hormuz is mainly a European concern that NATO and Europe should resolve.
“The Strait of Hormuz is not something that's particularly essential for America. We don't get most of our oil through there, but Europe does”
- Sohrab Ahmari
Ahmari argues Iran is overplaying its leverage over the strait by attacking civilian ships.
“I think the Iranians are overplaying a good hand, right? They had this capacity, which they didn't even weren't fully aware of it, which is to choke this global energy point”
- Sohrab Ahmari
Ahmari considers a return to full-scale war unlikely and expects the U.S. to pressure Iran through a blockade instead.
“I don't think we'll ever return to a big escalatory war ever again”
People
In the conversation
- Megyn KellyConservative broadcaster and podcaster
- Jack PosobiecConservative commentator, Human Events senior editor and Turning Point USA contributor
- Sean DavisCEO and co-founder of The Federalist
- Sohrab AhmariU.S. editor of UnHerd and conservative commentator
Discussed
- Charlie KirkAmerican conservative activist and podcast host assassinated in September 2025
- Tyler RobinsonSuspect in the Charlie Kirk assassination
- Lance TwiggsRobinson's partner and alleged recipient of his text messages
- Erika KirkAmerican figure Trump reportedly told to sue over a comedy sketch
- Donald Trump Jr.Son of Donald Trump, reportedly discussed as Apprentice host
- Bryan KohbergerMan convicted in the University of Idaho killings
- Graham PlatnerPresumptive Democratic nominee for Senate in Maine
- Susan CollinsRepublican senator who noted Congress holds the power of the purse
- Troy JacksonFormer Maine Senate president floated as a Platner replacement
- Lindsay FifieldFormer Platner girlfriend featured in The New York Times story
- Mika BrzezinskiMorning Joe co-host praised by Ahmari for questioning a reporter on Platner
- Eric SwalwellDemocratic U.S. Representative and candidate for governor of California
- Tom CoburnLate U.S. senator for whom Sean Davis worked as chief investigator
- JD VanceVice President of the United States
- James TalaricoDemocratic Senate nominee in Texas
Topics
- Assassination of Charlie Kirk
- Tyler Robinson preliminary hearing
- Political violence in the United States
- Surveillance video evidence
- DNA evidence
- Turning Point USA
- 2026 United States Senate election in Maine
- United States war with Iran
- Strait of Hormuz
- Conspiracy theories in the United States
- Butler, Pennsylvania assassination attempt
- United States Semiquincentennial
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From the publisher
Megyn Kelly breaks down the exact alleged timeline of Tyler Robinson's four different trips to UVU on the day of Charlie Kirk's assassination complete with enhanced video, the chilling details alleging Robinson ate lunch on campus and interacted with TP USA staff, the new information we're learning about Robinson's visits back to campus after the shooting, and more. Then Jack Posobiec, TPUSA contributor and Human Events Live host, joins to discuss what it's like in the courtroom at the Tyler Robinson preliminary hearing, how small the space is with Erika Kirk and Charlie Kirk's parents next to Tyler Robinson's parents, Robinson seem laughing in court, the most compelling evidence to emerge at the Tyler Robinson hearing, the significance of the DNA evidence that shows Robinson and Lance Twiggs on the towel and screwdriver, and more. Then Sean Davis, CEO of The Federalist, and Sohrab Ahmari, US Editor of Unherd, join to discuss the potential for more war with Iran after Trump says the ceasefire is over again, why it's more likely to see some skirmishes but not full war, whether America should just let others clean up the Strait of Hormuz mess, assassination culture on the rise on the left, the "trans terroristic movement" in America, the way some went a little crazy after witnessing Charlie Kirk's assassination, the latest allegations against Graham Platner, how impossible it is for a person to rationally even respond to them, why the Democrats got themselves in this position for ignoring warning signs, and more. Posobiec- https://x.com/JackPosobiec Davis- https://thefederalist.com/ Ahmari-https://unherd.com/ Supersure Insurance: Upgrade your business insurance to a year-round SuperAgency at https://Supersure.com/Megyn Herald Group: Learn more at https://GuardYourCard.com Birch Gold: Text MK to 989898 and get a free America 250 silver round with qualifying purchase American Financing: Call American Financing today to find out how customers are saving an average of $8…
Summary, chapters and key points were generated from the episode transcript on September 29, 2026. Quotes are checked word for word against the transcript.