Bloodlines: Wednesday, June 24th, 2026

Episode of The Toast · June 24, 2026 · 1 h 9 min

Claudia and Jackie Oshry discuss Taylor Swift at Tight Ends University, Kylie Jenner's Meta glasses, Joe Manganiello's memoir, Lizzo's album flop, and Love Island USA.

Summary

Sisters Claudia and Jackie Oshry opened the episode with personal updates, including Claudia's long-awaited EMG nerve test for her thumb, a programming change moving Dear Toasters to Thursdays during Love Island season, a promotion of their Patreon, and Claudia's decision to skip a James Taylor concert with her husband Ben.

The hosts then covered five celebrity stories. They speculated about what Tight Ends University actually is after Taylor Swift performed "Love Story" with Lainey Wilson there, and Claudia criticized George Kittle's song request before both listed their own Swift picks. They were skeptical of Kylie Jenner's Meta smart-glasses partnership, though Jackie praised Meta's choice of spokesperson. Claudia said she had no interest in Joe Manganiello's memoir Bloodlines about his autoimmune illness. On Lizzo's album selling about 2,649 first-week copies, Claudia argued the music itself was weak and linked Lizzo's decline to GLP-1 drugs undermining the body-positivity movement, while Jackie argued Lizzo's cultural moment had passed. They closed the news with Jordyn Woods's lucky orange bag being displayed at the Guggenheim after a Knicks win.

The episode ended with a recap of Love Island USA's third Casa Amor episode, in which the hosts criticized an explicit challenge, lamented Caleb's lack of romantic prospects, and predicted which couples would reunite, with Jackie forecasting that Bryce and Trinity would win.

Chapters

  1. 0:23

    Opening and health updates

    The hosts discuss Jackie's lost voice, mahjong, and Claudia's upcoming EMG test for her thumb and other ailments.

  2. 5:29

    Programming changes and Patreon

    Claudia moves Dear Toasters to Thursdays during Love Island and both hosts promote their Patreon subscription.

  3. 11:44

    James Taylor concert

    Claudia explains why she skipped a James Taylor concert with her husband Ben and his family.

  4. 20:13

    Taylor Swift at Tight Ends University

    The hosts puzzle over Tight Ends University, discuss George Kittle's wedding discretion and song request, and list their own Taylor Swift picks.

  5. 29:30

    Kylie Jenner's Meta glasses

    The sisters question the appeal of smart glasses while praising Meta's choice of Kylie Jenner as the face and voice of the product.

  6. 37:12

    Joe Manganiello's memoir Bloodlines

    Jackie reads about Manganiello's autoimmune illness and amputation, and Claudia explains why she won't read the book.

  7. 44:46

    Lizzo's album flop

    The hosts debate why Lizzo's new album sold so poorly, citing song quality, scandal, GLP-1 drugs, and a passed cultural moment.

  8. 53:45

    Jordyn Woods's lucky bag

    The hosts discuss Jordyn Woods's orange bag going to the Guggenheim after a Knicks win and her relationship with Karl-Anthony Towns.

  9. 56:09

    Love Island USA Casa Amor recap

    The sisters recap the third Casa Amor episode, criticizing the explicit challenge and predicting which couples will survive.

Key points

What was said, by whom, with the exact words. Timestamps jump to the moment.

  • Claudia Oshry

    Claudia Oshry said she was finally getting a nerve test after years of her thumb not working.

    “I'm finally getting my nerve test on my thumb and I'm hoping we will finally find out why my thumb stopped working”

    Listen from 2:16

  • Claudia Oshry

    Claudia Oshry said the hosts are fully loyal to Patreon despite streamers launching competing subscriptions.

    “We are so motherfucking loyal to Patreon. We will never leave”

    Listen from 9:33 · Patreon

  • Claudia Oshry

    Claudia Oshry criticized George Kittle for requesting "Love Story," a song Swift has performed countless times.

    “And it was like, Taylor Swift has never taken requests. It's not a karaoke bar. And you request love stories”

    Listen from 24:20 · Tight Ends University

  • Claudia Oshry

    Claudia Oshry argued Taylor Swift will never again perform "Peace" because of its connection to her breakup with Joe Alwyn.

    “I don't think Taylor will ever sing Peace ever again because it's literally the definition of why her and Joe Alwyn broke up”

    Listen from 28:28

  • Jackie Oshry

    Jackie Oshry argued consumers do not want camera-equipped tech glasses.

    “They don't want like camera wearable techie glasses anymore”

    Listen from 30:04 · Meta smart glasses

  • Jackie Oshry

    Jackie Oshry speculated Kylie Jenner was paid enormously and called her selection a smart move by Meta.

    “I think she was paid $1 billion because it's such a good move by Meta. She's the coolest person in the world”

    Listen from 30:28 · Meta smart glasses

  • Claudia Oshry

    Claudia Oshry said Joe Manganiello's life and career are not interesting enough to warrant a memoir.

    “I don't think Joe Manganiello is like a celebrity who's like really, whose personal life and career is like really interesting enough for a memoir”

    Listen from 38:55 · Bloodlines (Joe Manganiello memoir)

  • Linked moment · 39:42Skip to 39:42 using a listen link in the info box.

    Claudia Oshry

    Claudia Oshry said that while autoimmune illnesses are real, celebrities sometimes use them to mask eating disorders, without accusing Manganiello.

    “I think a lot of times these autoimmune disease cover up anorexia”

    Listen from 39:42 · Bloodlines (Joe Manganiello memoir)

  • Claudia Oshry

    Claudia Oshry called Lizzo an unusual example of an artist actually being brought down by scandal.

    “We always say no one's really cancelable, but Lizzo's been such an interesting example”

    Listen from 45:50 · Cancel culture

  • Claudia Oshry

    Claudia Oshry argued Lizzo's poor sales stem largely from weak music, since scandals are usually forgotten if songs are good.

    “If she was releasing true bangers, people would just forget about it. People forget about shit all the time”

    Listen from 46:09 · Lizzo album Bitch

  • Jackie Oshry

    Jackie Oshry pointed to Ariana Grande as an artist whose music still streams despite worse PR problems.

    “even I think about like Ariana Grande, who's had like a worst PR nightmare over the last few years than her”

    Listen from 46:54 · Lizzo album Bitch

  • Claudia Oshry

    Claudia Oshry put the sales in context, noting a successful album today sells around 50,000 copies due to streaming.

    “a successful album is considered like around 50,000. It's not what it used to be because people stream now”

    Listen from 47:47 · Lizzo album Bitch

  • Claudia Oshry

    Claudia Oshry argued GLP-1 drugs undermined the body-positivity movement Lizzo represented because most people chose to lose weight when given the option.

    “most people took the drug because while yes, we're embracing fat and fat is beautiful, it's not our first choice”

    Listen from 50:26 · GLP-1 receptor agonists

  • Jackie Oshry

    Jackie Oshry argued Lizzo's messaging captured a past cultural moment that has since passed.

    “her messaging and just her essence really touched on the zeitgeist of that moment. And that moment has passed”

    Listen from 50:44 · Lizzo album Bitch

  • Jackie OshryCame true

    Jackie Oshry predicted that Bryce and Trinity would reunite and win the season.

    “Bryce and Trinity like very much are very into each other. And they will win. They will come back to each other”

    Listen from 1:00:08 · Love Island USA

  • Claudia Oshry

    Claudia Oshry said Caleb should leave the show because it is not the right place for him.

    “The thing is, and it pains me to say this, like Caleb has to go home”

    Listen from 1:01:44 · Love Island USA

  • Claudia OshryCame true

    Claudia Oshry predicted Anaya would return to Kacey and Kacey would bring back Tiara after Casa Amor.

    “I am almost certain that she will go back to KC and he will bring back Tierra”

    Listen from 1:03:41 · Love Island USA

People

In the conversation

  • Claudia OshryAmerican media personality, podcaster and co-host of The Toast, known as Girl With No Job
  • Jackie OshryAmerican podcaster and co-host of The Toast, Claudia Oshry's sister

Discussed

  • Taylor SwiftAmerican singer-songwriter cited as an example of public love-and-hate cycles
  • Travis KelceNFL tight end and New Heights co-host engaged to Taylor Swift
  • George KittleSan Francisco 49ers tight end and co-founder of Tight End University
  • Lainey WilsonAmerican country singer whom Langley cites as a work-ethic role model
  • Kylie JennerAmerican media personality
  • Joe ManganielloActor known for True Blood, author of the memoir Bloodlines
  • LizzoSinger sued by former dancers
  • Trisha PaytasInternet personality who disclosed using GLP-1 drugs
  • Jordyn WoodsAmerican model and former friend of Kylie Jenner
  • Karl-Anthony TownsNew York Knicks big man
  • James TaylorSinger-songwriter Patterson met at McLean Hospital
  • Ariana GrandeAmerican singer and actress who appeared in Yang's SNL farewell sketch

Topics

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From the publisher

1. Taylor Swift Closes Out Fiancé Travis Kelce's Tight Ends and Friends Concert with Surprise Performance with Lainey Wilson (PEOPLE) (20:13) 2. Kylie Jenner’s Meta Glasses Greet Wearers With ‘Rise and Shine’ (Elle) (29:39) 3. Joe Manganiello reveals life-threatening health battle resulting in ‘amputation’ (Page Six) (37:17) 4. Lizzo’s new album fails to chart as dismal first-week sales revealed (The Independent) (44:49) 5. Jordyn Woods' Lucky Orange Bag Gets a Place of Honor at Guggenheim Museum Following New York Knicks’ Big Win (PEOPLE) (53:49) - Love Island USA Recap (56:10) The Toast with Jackie (@JackieOshry) and Claudia Oshry (@girlwithnojob) ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Toast Patreon ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Toast Merch ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Girl With No Job by Claudia Oshry ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Camper & The Counselor⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Lean In⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Summary, chapters and key points were generated from the episode transcript on September 29, 2026. Quotes are checked word for word against the transcript.

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