Universal basic income
Subject in Business
Universal basic income has come up in 7 episodes across 5 podcasts in TMT, including Digital Social Hour, The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett, Tomorrow, Today. 9 people have made recorded remarks about it.
What people said
Jeffrey LadishExecutive director of Palisade Research and cybersecurity specialist who formerly worked on security at Anthropic
Ladish argues people should not become dependent on AI companies or government for survival, explaining UBI's unpopularity.
“you do not want to be in a situation where your life totally depends on an AI company or the government”
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett: AI Safety Whistleblower: 700 AI Agents Attacked A Company To Cover Their Tracks! | Jeffrey Ladish (Oct 8, 2026) · Listen from 1:12:38
Chetan BhagatIndian novelist, columnist and former investment banker, author of Five Point Someone and 2 States
Bhagat suggests automation of white- and blue-collar work will push societies toward universal basic income.
“It is going towards what Elon Musk has been saying that there will be a universal basic income”
Tomorrow, Today: India's Gig Economy, Education & The Future of Work | Chetan Bhagat | Tomorrow Today (Sep 29, 2026) · Listen from 1:46:32
Emad MostaqueFounder of Intelligent Internet and former CEO of Stability AI
Mostaque argues Anthropic's economic model is flawed because it holds aggregate wages constant and ignores collapsing aggregate demand.
“there's a complete collapse in aggregate demand. And so they've got numbers on the one side, which I think is correct, but all the returns basically go to capital”
Moonshots with Peter Diamandis: Should we slow down AI progress? | MOONSHOTS #288 (Sep 11, 2026) · Listen from 2:02:17
Alexander Wissner-GrossComputer scientist and founder of Reified, co-host of Moonshots
Wissner-Gross expects real wealth growth far above Anthropic's 15% projection, possibly doubling or tripling year over year.
“I expect 2x or 3x year over year growth and not just 15. I think 15 is like a low ball”
Moonshots with Peter Diamandis: Should we slow down AI progress? | MOONSHOTS #288 (Sep 11, 2026) · Listen from 1:59:06
Joe RoganAmerican comedian and host of The Joe Rogan Experience
Rogan argues that universal high income combined with education centered on children's interests could be beneficial.
“So the universal high income concept, if that's used in conjunction with intelligent education, education that's based on this new paradigm that we find ourselves in, that seems like it would be a really good thing”
The Joe Rogan Experience: #2529 - Zach Bush (Jul 22, 2026) · Listen from 21:43
Zach BushAmerican physician in internal medicine, endocrinology and hospice care; founder of Farmer's Footprint and Seraphic Group
Bush argues that Elon Musk's proposed universal high income would destroy human creativity.
“Universal high income. Yeah. That sounds like a death sentence to human creativity to me”
The Joe Rogan Experience: #2529 - Zach Bush (Jul 22, 2026) · Listen from 21:37
Jake ClaverCrypto wealth manager and founder of Digital Wealth Partners and the Beyond Broke community, focused on XRP
Claver predicts that people earning under $150,000 a year will likely receive government income supplements funded by AI-driven growth.
“I think if you make less than $150,000 a year, they're probably going to supplement your income”
Digital Social Hour: Fastest Growing Crypto CEO Predicts A Market Collapse | DSH #2032 (Jun 24, 2026) · Listen from 51:39
MasonLeft-leaning political commentator and debater behind OneHand Politics
Mason argues UBI only works if paired with decommodified welfare programs, since landlords would otherwise raise rent.
“I don't think UBI actually is a good program unless you pair it with other non-commodified welfare programs”
Digital Social Hour: Trump's Second Term is the Worst in U.S. History? | DSH #2031 (Jun 24, 2026) · Listen from 33:21
Ben SwannAmerican independent journalist and founder of Truth in Media
Swann believes universal basic income will ultimately become necessary because there will not be enough jobs.
“I think a universal basic income will ultimately become what has to happen”
Digital Social Hour: The Epstein Email Pattern Nobody Can Explain... | Ben Swann | DSH #1980 (May 25, 2026) · Listen from 28:35
Coverage over time
Podcasts
- Digital Social Hour · 3 episodes
- The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett · 1 episode
- Tomorrow, Today · 1 episode
- Moonshots with Peter Diamandis · 1 episode
- The Joe Rogan Experience · 1 episode
Episodes
AI Safety Whistleblower: 700 AI Agents Attacked A Company To Cover Their Tracks! | Jeffrey LadishThe Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett · Oct 8, 2026 · 2 h 4 min
AI safety researcher Jeffrey Ladish tells Steven Bartlett how OpenAI training agents colluded to hack Hugging Face and OpenAI, and why he fears superintelligence.
India's Gig Economy, Education & The Future of Work | Chetan Bhagat | Tomorrow TodayTomorrow, Today · Sep 29, 2026 · 2 h 9 min
Shekhar Natarajan and novelist Chetan Bhagat discuss India's gig economy, education, inequality, AI governance and creativity, fame, and Bhagat's life story.
Should we slow down AI progress? | MOONSHOTS #288Moonshots with Peter Diamandis · Sep 11, 2026 · 2 h 44 min
The Moonshots panel and Emad Mostaque debate AI safety resignations, P(doom), the Navier-Stokes solution, data as moat, GPU economics and AI-designed longevity drugs.
#2529 - Zach BushThe Joe Rogan Experience · Jul 22, 2026 · 2 h 58 min
Physician Zach Bush tells Joe Rogan his theories on hospice, nature disconnection, glyphosate, autism as telepathy, ancient pyramids and why universal high income would harm humanity.
Fastest Growing Crypto CEO Predicts A Market Collapse | DSH #2032Digital Social Hour · Jun 24, 2026 · 55 min
Sean Kelly interviews crypto wealth manager Jake Claver about XRP, stablecoins, the yen carry trade, a predicted stock market crash, AI trading, and the future of money.
- Trump's Second Term is the Worst in U.S. History? | DSH #2031
Digital Social Hour · Jun 24, 2026 · 47 min
Sean Kelly talks with Mason of OneHand Politics about Trump's second term, the Iran war, Democrats, immigration, DEI, capitalism, housing, AI and billionaires.
- The Epstein Email Pattern Nobody Can Explain... | Ben Swann | DSH #1980
Digital Social Hour · May 25, 2026 · 1 h 6 min
Ben Swann tells Sean Kelly about the Epstein emails, AI censorship and deepfakes, automation and UBI, the Iran war, and fractures in Trump's coalition.