Dems EAT Their Own in California, with Ana Kasparian, and Trump's "Softer" Deportation Approach, with Gregory Bovino | Ep. 1317

Episode of The Megyn Kelly Show · May 14, 2026 · 1 h 42 min

Megyn Kelly and Ana Kasparian discuss California's governor race, Jack Schlossberg, and Thomas Massie's primary, then Gregory Bovino argues Trump's deportation policy has softened.

Summary

Megyn Kelly opened with Ana Kasparian of The Young Turks to discuss the 2026 California gubernatorial race, including Katie Porter's claim on CNN that Tom Steyer leaked a video of her berating a staffer, Xavier Becerra's rise to first place in polling, and his request to a KTLA reporter that the interview be a profile rather than a 'gotcha.' Kasparian criticized all the candidates for lacking policy solutions and argued California faces serious fiscal problems. The two then criticized Jack Schlossberg's Manhattan congressional campaign after a New York Times report on his erratic behavior, thin résumé and a social media post copied from Seth Moulton; Kasparian linked it to what she called a competency problem in the U.S. political class, citing the war with Iran.

The pair next discussed the Kentucky Republican primary in which Thomas Massie faces Ed Gallrein, backed by Trump and heavily funded by pro-Israel groups including AIPAC's United Democracy Project and the Republican Jewish Coalition. Kasparian argued the race shows elections are bought and called for a constitutional amendment removing money from politics; Kelly recalled Citizens United as a watershed. They also debated Trump's remark that he does not think about Americans' finances when negotiating with Iran, with Kelly saying he was taken somewhat out of context and Kasparian disagreeing.

In the second half, former Border Patrol Commander at Large Gregory Bovino argued that the administration has taken a softer approach on deportations since the Minneapolis deaths of Renee Good and Alex Pretti, blaming advisers he called RINOs. He said dismantling roving patrols had raised border crossings, citing a surge in Laredo, contended that interior enforcement drives self-deportation, criticized Tom Homan and Rodney Scott for never contacting him during operations, and endorsed E-Verify as one facet of 'total spectrum immigration enforcement.' Bovino also claimed there are about 100 million illegal immigrants in the U.S. and suggested Border Patrol chief Mike Banks' resignation followed a politically timed smear.

Chapters

  1. 2:29

    Katie Porter blames Tom Steyer

    Kelly and Kasparian discuss Porter's claim that Steyer leaked her staffer video and Steyer's non-denial.

  2. 6:27

    California governor polls and Becerra

    The hosts review polling, the gubernatorial debate, and Becerra's request for a soft profile interview.

  3. 16:00

    Jack Schlossberg's campaign

    They dissect a New York Times report on Schlossberg's erratic campaign and his defense of his qualifications.

  4. 22:54

    Competency in the political class

    Kasparian argues the U.S. suffers a political competency crisis, while Kelly discusses social media's effect on who runs.

  5. 28:13

    Schlossberg copies Seth Moulton

    A spliced clip shows Schlossberg's post closely copying Moulton's, prompting criticism of his entitlement.

  6. 32:42

    The campaign against Thomas Massie

    The pair discuss pro-Israel spending against Massie, a late allegation against him, and Citizens United.

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    45:31

    Trump on Iran and Americans' finances

    Kelly and Kasparian debate Trump's remark that financial concerns do not motivate his Iran negotiations.

  8. 51:17

    Homan and signs of a softer approach

    Bovino responds to Homan's hedging on amnesty and reporting that hardliners like Stephen Miller are losing influence.

  9. 1:06:17

    Minneapolis and roving patrols

    Bovino explains roving patrols, the Good and Pretti incidents, and Kristi Noem's messaging.

  10. 1:14:24

    Bovino's departure and sanctuary policies

    Bovino describes clashing with the administration and calls Minnesota a capitulation on sanctuary policy.

  11. 1:20:45

    Laredo, self-deportation and E-Verify

    Bovino links interior enforcement to border crossings and advocates self-deportation incentives and E-Verify.

  12. 1:33:26

    The wall, 100 million claim and Mike Banks

    Bovino defends his estimate of 100 million illegal immigrants and comments on Border Patrol chief Mike Banks' resignation.

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In the conversation

  • Megyn KellyConservative broadcaster and podcaster
  • Ana KasparianAmerican progressive commentator, host and executive producer of The Young Turks
  • Gregory BovinoFormer U.S. Border Patrol Commander at Large

Discussed

  • Thomas MassieKentucky congressman facing a Trump-backed primary challenge
  • Ed GallreinTrump-backed Republican primary challenger to Thomas Massie
  • Steve HiltonRepublican candidate for governor of California and former Fox News host
  • Chad BiancoRiverside County sheriff and Republican candidate for governor of California
  • Nancy PelosiUS congresswoman whose husband was attacked with a hammer in their San Francisco home
  • Stephen MillerWhite House deputy chief of staff and architect of the administration's immigration agenda
  • Kristi NoemU.S. Secretary of Homeland Security discussed in connection with a DHS contract scandal
  • Rodney ScottCBP Commissioner
  • Mike BanksBorder Patrol chief who resigned
  • Renee GoodWoman killed in an ICE encounter in Minneapolis
  • Alex PrettiMan killed in a Border Patrol encounter in Minneapolis
  • Jacob FreyMayor of Minneapolis
  • Pete HegsethU.S. Secretary of Defense overseeing the Iran campaign
  • John KerryFormer Secretary of State for whom Schlossberg worked

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From the publisher

Megyn Kelly is joined by Ana Kasparian, host and producer of "The Young Turks," to discuss the top Democrats in the California governor’s race spiraling, Katie Porter taking wild shots at Tom Steyer, Xavier Becerra embarrassingly trying to avoid tough questions, Kennedy offspring loser Jack Schlossberg struggling to explain his actual qualifications and role as a “content creator,” backlash to his congressional campaign, the massive campaign against Thomas Massie, how powerful donors are targeting him over his stance on Israel and Epstein push, and more. Then Gregory Bovino, former Border Patrol Commander at Large, joins to discuss concerns the Trump administration is taking a softer approach now on deportations, shifting rhetoric from immigration officials since Bovino left his position, how Trump’s deportation policy shifted after the Minnesota killings of Renee Good and Alex Pretti, why Bovino believes the administration backed off aggressive enforcement, why “self-deportations” are one of the most effective immigration enforcement strategies, how interior enforcement impacts border security, the role of E-Verify, and more. Kasparian- https://kasparian.substack.com/ Bovino- https://x.com/GregoryKBovino Birch Gold: Text MK to 989898 for a free info kit and to see if you qualify for up to $10,000 back through May 29. Herald Group: Learn more at https://GuardYourCard.com Veracity Health: Head to https://VeracityHealth.co and use code Megyn for up to 65% off your order Relief Factor: Break up with pain—Relief Factor targets inflammation so you can move better and feel better; try the 3-Week QuickStart for just $19.95 at https://ReliefFactor.com or call 800-4-RELIEF.

Summary, chapters and key points were generated from the episode transcript on September 28, 2026. Quotes are checked word for word against the transcript.

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