Government fraud and waste

Rogan endorses an idea he attributes to Jeff Bezos of not taxing the lowest-earning half of Americans.

“He said the bottom 50%, the people that make the least amount of money, don't tax them at all”

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Rogan argues the federal government is too wasteful to be trusted with more tax money and would have gone bankrupt if run like a private company.

“If the federal government was being forced to handle money the same way a private company does, if it was all out in the open, everything was exposed, they would have gone bankrupt a long time ago”

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Rogan argues that California's homelessness spending is not technically fraud but waste, since employees are paid while accomplishing nothing.

“like the California homeless thing where they spent twenty four billion dollars, they can't account for it. That's not really fraud because you have people working. They're just not doing anything”

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Rogan argues that the more power a government has over citizens, the worse off they are.

“the more power the government has over you the worse you are off that's just a fact”

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Hammer argues the Pentagon should not receive increased funding until it passes an audit.

“We're going to raise defense spending to a trillion dollars a year, but it can't pass an audit?”

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Hammer says independent reports find California's billionaire tax would raise money short term but lose far more as wealth leaves.

“yes, it'll capture tens of billions quickly, but it'll lose hundreds of billions over the long term because the wealth that you tax on a yearly basis is just leaving”

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Frisella criticizes the five-month delay before the Minnesota fraud raid, suggesting it allowed evidence to be cleaned up.

“You could have raided them the day after it was on fucking the internet”

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Frisella claims the government deliberately keeps people struggling so they cannot notice how they are being exploited.

“These people are intentionally keeping people in a place of hardship”

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Lewis acknowledges waste in the civil service but says internal fraud is unlikely because employees are closely monitored.

“There's not a lot of fraud because they get watched so close”

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Lovett argues that cutting NIST's travel agent may show savings on paper but makes government less efficient.

“But in the end result, the government is less efficient and less effective”

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Burchett says he would withdraw the United States from the UN.

“If it was up to me, I'd pull out of the dadgum U.N. They are nothing. All they do is get Americans killed”

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Palihapitiya estimates that a large share of federal spending leaks out, mostly through incompetence and errors rather than conspiracy.

“I think probably 30% to 40% of the federal budget is leaked out”

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DJ believes SNAP abuse has long been occurring and that the government has known about it.

“It's been going on forever. And not only has it been going on forever, dude, our government knows it”

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Von argues Americans are being poisoned through food and medicine in ways that suppress the will to resist.

“we have food that is made to be not good for us, and then we have a healthcare system that'll just kind of take care of you”

The Joe Rogan Experience: #2478 - Theo Von (Apr 2, 2026) · Listen from 28:47